700 hp 3400

[TurboAlero]

Hmm ok cool, but still do you have more pic's? of you're engine with the the gt40 turbo ?? because I to have a GT40 turbo on my setup but this the only turbo I'm using for drag and daily driving.

And if you can , make a video of the dyno or on the streets
lol

Hmm, where did you do all that stuff to you're gearbox?? and how muchdid it cost? because If it's holding 700hp well then I want it done to my gearbox to lol.
Btw I have the getrack Hm 282

[Guest]

Care to back that statement up? First, you pm me telling me you have been posting here lately helping people. Well, you just said you stopped posting on here so which is it?! Next, Imanpreet isn't here asking he what he can do. He is showing us what he can do. I asked what was up with the dyno cause it looked odd. Someone agreed with BS, which I wasn't calling at all. 1 person called bs, 1 is doubting it, and I am staying neutral asking questions so I can understand this setup. So please, prove your point. Also, supposed gurus? This isn't grandamgt.com. We have no site gurus unless you want to call someone that. We are enthusiasts, always learning more about these engines and what is possible. If you want to put pedestals out and place the pawns out front, make your own 60V6 site or stop posting here for good.




Um, joe schmoe can't even change their own oil so thanks for the absurd reference. This site is not needed by everyone, or anyone for that matter. We can live without it. I put my heart into this site and so has brad and many others to help everyone else make the most of these motors. Im not the smartest and im not the richest. I have talked to people around the world with 60V6s and what they are doing. I know there are people with more skills than me. This site is a global community, ran by the members of the community. With 1000+ posts, you make up a larger % than most, so if this site has gone downhil, its partially your fault as well. I don't recall hearing any problems from you before now, so whats the real problem?



You and the L67 owners on clubgp. Maybe you should consider owning one.

Get your head out of your fucking ass, and learn to comprehend what you read.

I stopped posting on here a while ago, due to the bickering and BS flag waving, mostly instigated by you, even if it wasn't said in so many words, everyone that could and didn't know much would hang off your balls, because you started this site, so you must know.
I came back a while ago and have helped out more than one person on this site with insight and ideas of thier builds, as I have seen results and quotes of me placed on other boards.
I do actually help run another 60V6 site, you may have heard of it www.domesticcrew.com Yeah it's not as popular as here, but much more accepting of what people that have not previously been heard of on the internet can do.

BTW, I'd rather you tell the story correctly, you PMed me first telling me "bye" in some, what I would assume to be a childish attempt at telling me to leave because you and I don't have an agreeable opinion on this subject.

"Joe "Schmoe" would be a generic name for anyone not known on this site, I know many "Joe Schmoe's" that can do much more than change thier oil, and can build more powerful and reliable engines than anyone on this site seen, so please use your god given brains a bit and realize how the term is being used.

This is fucking childish, you seem to simply want to pick a fight with just about anyone, anymore. Pathetic would be another way to put it.

I'd never own an L67, because they are junk, and I don't understand where that reference comes from, another pathetic attampt at a childich insult perhaps? Or maybe some pent up jelousy coming out. *shrug*

This all started from me just saying that I believe it's possible for someone unknown to THIS site to build an amazingly powerful 660, when there have been many others in the thread that started this whole debate say they don't believe it.

Amazing how just a difference of opnion can show so much.

[bszopi]

Ok, well... I'm going to end this, but I'm not going to close the thread. If anyone feels the need to argue anymore, take it to PMs and copy me on it as well. Ben won't be responding to this thread (or at least the arguement) as I told him not to. I reccommend others do the same.

I would like to keep the thread open to continue the discussion in a civilized manner, as I know I am interested in the build even if I'm skeptical. But I know I don't know everything and there is always a ton more out there (ie, the engine in the hydroplane that came from a midget and had custom heads that no one has yet to find any further information on). Unfortunately, stupid bickering like this may just keep some people from posting. And it is obviously affecting relationships between long time members.

With that said, and further information or pictures you can provide would be greatly appreciated. I know you have covered it, but the dyno run still has me wondering its accuracy given some of the things I have read on the internet concerning the Clayton dynos. I'm not saying you are a liar, so please don't take it that way. If its accurate, more power to ya and I've love to see that thing in action!! We could add you to the L67 thread on ClubGP... Oh wait, we are trying to get rid of that stupid topic as well.

[TurboAlero]

HMm, I think it's possible to make a 60 degree engine like our to hold that much horsepower because there's alot of little engines like (Honda's) make more then that so why not every thing is possible with $$ lol

It's possible but I really don't believe yet that (malibuss) made that much power with out a accurate prove. Because that dyno sheet is a little strange.
But like he sad , he will be doing some stuff on the 22/23 of march so let us see then what He really made (Whp).

And for you guys that wanna eat each other chill lol.
Don't know what happend and don't care.



And I thought that this site was for helping each other??
Every body has there opinion.

So chill people

[Identity Crisis]

Sorry I am now a little concerned about posting. I think that I will just keep being a reader of posts.

[sil]

Sorry I am now a little concerned about posting. I think that I will just keep being a reader of posts.

meh, i wouldnt worry about it

it takes all kinds to make a world

[TurboAlero]

Whaha, don't worry man just keep posting lol.

[ignoreance]

I'm not doubting that you can do it. I just wanted the information on it.. I like info with all the things that your doing thats all. It helps everybody else out.

[onefastV6]

The Getrag F23 is a tough little tranny, Spyhunter over on Grandamgt.com is pushing 300 + HP with stock tranny internals, he has replaced the clutch though. (2.4L turbo)

Again he has stated the 700HP mark is not something that is ran on a daily basis, and it is more like 400HP or less on a daily basis. I feel the getrag F23 is capable of handling that especially with the heat treated parts.

[TurboAlero]

Yeps it should handle 350whp + . with out any mods to it(internals)


Hmm, do you guys know how much the Getrack Hm 282 can take?
I have read that some people are pushing more then 500whp on it. Is that true?

Because my est on my setup will be 400whp + on low boost(10-15)psi

[Superdave]

Yeps it should handle 350whp + . with out any mods to it(internals)


Hmm, do you guys know how much the Getrack Hm 282 can take?
I have read that some people are pushing more then 500whp on it. Is that true?

Because my est on my setup will be 400whp + on low boost(10-15)psi

the HM282 has been proven to take near 500 lbs of TQ.. but that's all in the driver. If you go around doing burnouts all the time to impress the ladies then the trans will probably crap sooner than later.

Midnight is putting about 420 HP to his 282 w/o problems, i'll be putting about 300 to mine soon..

Curtis (TurboZ24) was braking "Indestructable" axels with his turbo 3.1/HM282.. that was like 480 lbs of TQ iirc.

[TurboAlero]

whaha,, welll that's good to hear that It's gonna hold lol.
Wel when I get the car dyno'd I will see howmuch the car is making. I don't wanna break the tranny yet , just wanna have fun with the car lol. That's why the car was build to do lol.

[rickykline]

so what kinda psi are you running to make 700hp? and if your running 15-18psi you should be around 400-450hp daily... doubt it.. me and several others here are running 10-12psi with almost 400whp.. youd have to boost to 30 before you got near the 700 mark... good luck... strap it to a dyno jet and post it and ill believe it...

[SappySE107]

check his page. its not gas.

[Joseph Upson]

It's not the horsepower that kills the tranny it's the torque, the V8 Fieros have so far proven the 4spd to be the stronger tranny than the 282. The F23 is a lot stronger than its rating depending on what vehicle it is used in. It's rated at a lower Lb/ft capacity than the F40 6spd but at a higher gross vehicle weight. In other words as the vehicle weight comes down the torque handling capacity through the transmission goes up because it will take more torque to equal the same stress loads generated in the heavier vehicle.

The small turbo motor compared to a naturally aspirated V8 is still easier on a transmission even if the smaller motor has more peak torque unless you are dumping the clutch or have a sequential turbo setup (700hp turbo=lag, sequential best of both worlds) because the smaller turbo engines do not have axle snapping torque off idle like the V8 and the smoother but quick spool up provides a more tollerable stress load often climbing from the 200+ torque range instead of around 300.

Not going to comment on the performance numbers, but I will say documentation and indisputable evidence is welcomed and encouraged.