neone want fwd headers?

[IsaacHayes]

Someone needs to come up with 3500 flanges and pipe welded together and sell it so we can just get 2 front manifolds and bolt it up......... That would be less work than headers and could be duplicated quicker...

Dave, you're saying that 3500 manifolds flow as well as the SS headers? they don't really have collectors though and are a lot shorter.....

[ForcedFirebird]

$550 is a great price for headers, that's only $150 more than it cost me to build mine. JBP used to charge $1400 for their stainless headers.

3500 manifolds are the cheap answer, they'll perform as well as shorty headers and with some finish work they can look pretty good too.


there is a big difference between something you hack together out of used parts and something designed and built on a jig with all new steel, flanges and coatings. People who bitch and moan about the price of headers need to either build their own so they know why FWD headers are expensive or learn to budget/save better so they can buy the good stuff.

Yup...



So just to have a jig, I had to donate a block, heads, manifold, stand, materials to build said jig, make the flanges, and supply the pipes (they get trashed sometimes from mistakes, and there is plenty of waste when you are done)...

Then for coating, I had to buy the ceramic coating ($45 per header), heat treating oven that goes to 750*, HVLP sprayer and then all your consumables such as welding supplies, blasting media (expensive aluminum oxide), cleaners, gloves, electricity...should I go on?

[W41duvernay]

more pictures please of the header

John,
Can't you please give us a picture of the headers for the other side. I'm curious if your using Headers By Ed stuff to create and their parts as well.
Do you think you could do a long tube style headers exhaust system for a
3.4 DOHC swapped into a Fiero.

[ForcedFirebird]

John,
Can't you please give us a picture of the headers for the other side. I'm curious if your using Headers By Ed stuff to create and their parts as well.
Do you think you could do a long tube style headers exhaust system for a
3.4 DOHC swapped into a Fiero.

I have a thread about them in the pushrod section. http://60degreev6.com/forum/f96/proj...headers-t44375

Those aren't my headers, they are a set that was modified for the l-body and are being used for mock-up and jig-making

[W41duvernay]

Doing a set for the 3.4 DOHC for a fiero swap would be a bitch. Headers By Ed goes by the theory of equal length (longest tube can't be more than +/-2" of shortest tube) and running the tube lenght out to 34". On a 200hp 3.4 DOHC, the tube diameter size should be 1&1/2" all 3 tube s into a 2-1/2" collector. Probably the tube length would have to be cut down to maybe some in that W-body or the Fiero swap. I was looking the picture the back tube on the engine would have to be run run towards the middle of the engine and then bent back around towards the rear to help on the equal length part on the fabrication. On the collector, all 3 tubes would have to be formed into like triangle shapes on the inside on the collector in order to cut down on turbulence; not unless your were planning welding a spike in the middle of the tubes. Of course, I wanted to use standard steel to help keep the cost down. Do you have the ability to make a header flange. Aslo, Headers by Ed also sell tube flanges so that the whole header could be made sectional so that it could be made so that it could easy to take off for anyone.