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  • #16
    Looks like the total cost for the studs shipped was: $201.08
    Regards,

    Todd E. Johnson

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    • #17
      Originally posted by AaronGTR
      I got a question. What's the point of replacing the freeze plugs? Is there a problem with the stock ones that they won't handle a built block or something? I just haven't heard of anyone else doing this before so I'm curious. What's the advantage of the brass ones?
      You've never had an engine rebuilt before have you? When a machine shop cleans/works on a block they always pull the core plugs.
      Colin
      92 Sunbird GT, 3200 Hybrid 13.99@ 95.22 (2004)
      90 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 10.54 @ 129mph.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by v6h.o.
        You've never had an engine rebuilt before have you? When a machine shop cleans/works on a block they always pull the core plugs.
        Awww... Now they don't "Have" to. Mine was stripped bare...

        Torque plate is now on the way...
        Regards,

        Todd E. Johnson

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        • #19
          They don't have to pull the "core plugs", but it is a good idea. And can we quit calling them "freeze plugs"? If a "core plug" pushes out due to freeze, you got cracks somewhere, (probably around your "freeze plug"), and you are a moron for letting it freeze in the first place.

          Most who posted on this thread probably understand that core holes are where the core mold is supported during the casting process. Freeze plugs are a misnomer. And whoever thought that up needs a ! Talk about misleading the public....

          IMHO. R&BC...
          If you are driving a Chevy, everything else, is just a blur. 3.4 Carbon Footprint.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by v6h.o.
            Originally posted by AaronGTR
            I got a question. What's the point of replacing the freeze plugs? Is there a problem with the stock ones that they won't handle a built block or something? I just haven't heard of anyone else doing this before so I'm curious. What's the advantage of the brass ones?
            You've never had an engine rebuilt before have you? When a machine shop cleans/works on a block they always pull the core plugs.
            Nope, I personally haven't. I know why they take them out when they are working on the block though. That's not what I was asking. I've read about rebuilds where people have had them replaced with brass plugs instead of putting stock ones back in and I was wondering why they did this. The only reason I've ever heard is that they'll use threaded plugs sometimes in racing engines and really extreme street engines that have very high oil and coolant pressures.
            '97 Grand Prix GT 3800 (sold)
            '00 Grand Am GT 3400 supercharged
            13.788 @ 103.73 mph, 320whp 300 ft/lbs
            Gotta love boost!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by RednBlackCutlass
              They don't have to pull the "core plugs", but it is a good idea.
              Hell Dennis, I didn't realize how close you were to me. My block and rotating assy is just down the road from you in Sarahsville @ WRP.
              Regards,

              Todd E. Johnson

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              • #22
                only reason I can see using brass is it doesn't corrode compared to the steel plugs.
                Colin
                92 Sunbird GT, 3200 Hybrid 13.99@ 95.22 (2004)
                90 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 10.54 @ 129mph.

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                • #23
                  Steel wont if your anti-freeze mixture stays correct.
                  1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
                  1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
                  Because... I am, CANADIAN

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                  • #24
                    Let's see... what can I schedule. [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]

                    How about a party at Ben's house next weekend. Woohoo!!

                    BYOB!!!

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                    ^^where did that come from? it was there when i opened the quickreply bar LMAO


                    anyways.... on with my message :P

                    its not just the inside of the block you have to worry about

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by tejohnson
                      Hell Dennis, I didn't realize how close you were to me. My block and rotating assy is just down the road from you in Sarahsville @ WRP.
                      You're about three hours away, depending on your foot. There are a lot of 660'ers in Ohio.
                      If you are driving a Chevy, everything else, is just a blur. 3.4 Carbon Footprint.
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                      • #26
                        Back on topic though, most "Good" parts outlets carry Dorman products. Dorman handles steel, as well as brass and expandable core plugs. Just measure yours and build your own set. Personally, I would stay with steel. As noted earlier, with proper anti-freeze solution, no problems with rust, from the inside. Paint them outside and you have a total seal.
                        If you are driving a Chevy, everything else, is just a blur. 3.4 Carbon Footprint.
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                        • #27
                          brass is still the better solution

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                          • #28
                            And just why is that?
                            If you are driving a Chevy, everything else, is just a blur. 3.4 Carbon Footprint.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by RednBlackCutlass
                              And just why is that?
                              I will be running more water, dumping the dexcool, and using water wetter at normal. Didn't think this would be a big debate. My intent is just for less of possibility of rust. I have no real opinion of what is stronger/better. Honestly, it just keeps the liquid in. If they bust out, you have problems

                              As to the comment I made before, I was obviously confused about your location

                              With so many folks in the region, should have a get-together area this year (National Trails?).
                              Regards,

                              Todd E. Johnson

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                              • #30
                                i would be down for national trails


                                lol anyways, antifreeze doesn't cool your engine, the water does, the more water, the better it will cool. i wouldn't run full water but i would do maybe a 2:1 ratio, using distilled water of course

                                oh and water wetter, or some kind of surface tension reducer will always help

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