Camshaft question...

[eliteweapons]

Thank You.

[xonelith]

Just to clarify. Is that a roller cam??

Sorry, thought I answered that in my first response Must've been tired.

[geoffinbc]

See now both thoes cams look ok. The only thing I would pick at is the LSA. I would want it wider. About 112 for the stage I and 112 to 114 for the stage II. Reason being I like my power curve to be long and flat. So If I were in the market I think I would be shopping more, if that were possible with the 3X00 motor.

[onefastV6]

I wonder if it would be possible to get a cam ground from Cammotion directly or to just purchase a cam blank. That way you could tailor the cam to your needs, wants and desires.

[Guest]

Yeah through those specs both look good, and would probably go for the "stage I" (God how I hate it when people use "stages" to promote product, but that's another rant)

But as BTY said, a wider LSA is what I'm after, my 3400 will most likely be turbocharged, and need that 112 to 114 LSA.

Goos info to know though.

[xonelith]

maybe i don't understand the lsa.... my powerband is 4200 to around 6200. Power doesn't drop off, stays constant (I only dyno'd up to 7000).

I like this setup since my fuel mileage stays really good (better than i was stock) until I hit the throttle. Pulls really good after 4grand.

would a higher lsa make the powerband start earlier?

funny though, all this typing and arguing and it took a single email to get the answer

Stage II is not for boost. Milzy is working on a boost cam, so keep an eye out.

[bszopi]

Yes, you can get a cam directly from Cam Motion.

[Guest]

LSA = Lobe Seperation Angle. (1)(d) meaning how far apart the lobe peaks are. (2) (m) measured in degrees.

LSA can effectthe power band, generally a wider LSA will have a wider power band and a narrower LSA will have a more peaky, narrower power band.

xonelith: We shouldn't have to e-mail though, to get this information. ALL other cam companies I look at, have thier specs right there on their sites or in thier catalogs.

[eliteweapons]

I emailed them on the 22nd and just just the response today.

[geoffinbc]

LSA = Lobe Seperation Angle. (1)(d) meaning how far apart the lobe peaks are. (2) (m) measured in degrees.

LSA can effectthe power band, generally a wider LSA will have a wider power band and a narrower LSA will have a more peaky, narrower power band.

xonelith: We shouldn't have to e-mail though, to get this information. ALL other cam companies I look at, have thier specs right there on their sites or in thier catalogs.

It should also be noted that a narrower LSA will build torque earlier in the power band which will have a higher peak but it will rise and fall fast and thus you get your narrow "peaky" powerband. An example of where this would work good is in a low duration high lift cam with a narrow (say 108 to 110) LSA which would make for a good towing/RV cam. Matched with the right stall converter it would be relentless at pulling shit.

A wider LSA will make its peak torque later in the power band, it will have a lower peak torque but the average torque (which I value most) will be better because it will be spread out over a broader RPM range. This would be great for street where you always want torque regardless of RPM.

Raven is right again about the SPECS. They need to be there for any buyer making an educated purchase.

Selling products as "Stages" also makes me laugh a bit too. Sounds so corney. Anyone also notice how the word "Custom" gets used way too much in the industry these days? "I have CUSTOM under drive pullies" No bitch you don't I bet 10,000 other people have them too which makes them production pieces.

[onefastV6]

I understand that people want's specs, but you must understand Milzy has pretty much just got his real start about 6 months ago selling these cams. Crane, Comp, and other well recognized companies have been around for years and have had time to put into their sites.

[geoffinbc]

DUED come on how stupid do you think we are??? Specs only take a few seconds to write down some numbers and upload a page.

If he did it already he wouldn't have had to answer any e-mails about it.

[onefastV6]

I agree it doesn't take much time and it would save alot of hassle. Hell there have been promises to have videos and sound clips up for months and they still aren't up. Many have been hounding him about dyno results on the stage 1 cam or times and he hasn't come up with anything.

[EspanolaGuitarista]

You guys hi-jacked my post...

So...ok....no on the GMPartsDirect. Find another. Milzy Stage 1 looks good for emissions. I have talked to Comp in the past and they said 209 is about the limit for an emissions engine. I still want to know about running the Stage II. Do I need to modify the head? You guys were so busy flaming each other you forgot to answer my question! I still think that I can possibly use V-max roller lifters from a SBC and get the duration down to an acceptable level. Where can I get a stall converter for the 4t60-e?

[onefastV6]

Re: You guys hi-jacked my post...

So...ok....no on the GMPartsDirect. Find another. Milzy Stage 1 looks good for emissions. I have talked to Comp in the past and they said 209 is about the limit for an emissions engine. I still want to know about running the Stage II. Do I need to modify the head? You guys were so busy flaming each other you forgot to answer my question! I still think that I can possibly use V-max roller lifters from a SBC and get the duration down to an acceptable level. Where can I get a stall converter for the 4t60-e?

Yes, if you go with a stage 2 you will have to modify the heads.