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  • Offenhauser Intake? Or Edelbrock Intake?

    Hey guys,

    I am planning on purchasing a 1985 Fiero 2m4. It's a very stripped down base Fiero with a manual transmission. I intend to completely strip it, lower it about an inch, and basically.. I plan to just use it for autocrossing.

    It currently has a Tech-4 in it right now, and I'd like to drop in a V6/60. I've got a source on a $99 dollar GM 2.8 shortblock, completely assembled, and never used. I've got some spare Fiero heads, and I'd really like to make this carbureted. I'm planning on buying a carbureted intake manifold.

    My choices are to go with either the Edelbrock manfiold, or the Offenhauser manifold. I can get the Offenhauser manifold for about $50 bucks. Is it worth it? Do you guys know if this manifold is BETTER than the Edelbrock manifold?

    Also, what distributor would you recommend that I use for this engine? Is there a way to use the factory gauges while bypassing the computer all together?


    Thanks!
    Todd,
    2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
    1997 Pontiac GrandAm GT
    1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 5-Speed
    1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 Auto
    1984 Pontiac Fiero 2m4 SE WS6
    1981 Pontiac TransAm WS6
    1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

  • #2
    Oh yeah, I also wanted to ask... what carburetor would you recommend? I can get either the 2-bbl or the 4-bbl intake piece. I don't currently own any 2-bbl carburetors except a webber but I'm using that on my 73 Bus.

    Can I install one of my rochester quadrajets? Or would you guys recommend I go with something else?

    Since this IS carbureted, and I don't have to worry about computer control at all, what would be a GOOD camshaft that you guys would recommend? I'd like something with a LOT of mid to upper rpm kick. I don't care how crazy, or emissions unfriendly it is because this will only be used for autocrossing. I probably won't even register it (unless they make me).

    Thanks!
    Todd,
    2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
    1997 Pontiac GrandAm GT
    1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 5-Speed
    1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 Auto
    1984 Pontiac Fiero 2m4 SE WS6
    1981 Pontiac TransAm WS6
    1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

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    • #3
      I have a 2 bbl intake I think laying around if you would want it. I can get a pic of it to show you what it looks like. I want to say its a GM peice and is a prototype perhaps.

      Let me know.

      Shaun

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      • #4
        Yeah! I'd love to see pics of it.

        Thanks!
        Todd,
        2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
        1997 Pontiac GrandAm GT
        1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 5-Speed
        1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 Auto
        1984 Pontiac Fiero 2m4 SE WS6
        1981 Pontiac TransAm WS6
        1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

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        • #5
          Here is a pic of it. its in the left hand side of the pic. i only have that pic for now. Sorry about that. New ones soon if you like.

          Its a GM piece. GM 476512

          Shaun

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          • #6
            That 2-barrel intake looks like a stock one from an S-10 or Camaro.

            Marty
            '99 Z-28 - Weekend Driver
            '98 Dodge Neon - Winter Beater
            '84 X-11 - Time and Money Pit
            '88 Fiero Formula - Bone stock for now

            Quote of the week:
            Originally posted by Aaron
            This is why I don't build crappy headers. I'm not sure, I don't know too much about welding.

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            • #7
              Yeah, I'm really weary of the Edelbrock one because from what I understand, the left side ports are larger than the right side ports. Apparently they do this so that the LEFT side provides more top-end power, and the right side provides more low-end power.

              Isn't that "bad"? I mean... I'm sure they wouldn't have done it if it was a poor idea, but I don't really like the idea of opposite sides of my motor not functioning the same way?

              I'd like to build up a DECENT high-revving 2.8 (I'd like to get power to 6,500 rpms) but also decent mid range power. This will be going into a Fiero. What would you guys recommend? I didn't see anything on the Edelbrock web site, but I know they sell a kit...


              thanks,
              Todd,
              2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
              1997 Pontiac GrandAm GT
              1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 5-Speed
              1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 Auto
              1984 Pontiac Fiero 2m4 SE WS6
              1981 Pontiac TransAm WS6
              1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

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              • #8
                I am planning something similar for my '87 Fiero. I have a basically stock 2.8 short block, and I will add some ported iron heads, Crane H272 cam, and a modified S-10 2-barrel manifold. I am modifying the manifold to open up the throttle bores, and enlarge the runners for more flow. I will be using a 350 truck TBI unit on an adapter plate. This will require a reprogrammed computer, but should allow for good top end power using mostly off-the-shelf GM parts with some fabrication.

                Marty
                '99 Z-28 - Weekend Driver
                '98 Dodge Neon - Winter Beater
                '84 X-11 - Time and Money Pit
                '88 Fiero Formula - Bone stock for now

                Quote of the week:
                Originally posted by Aaron
                This is why I don't build crappy headers. I'm not sure, I don't know too much about welding.

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                • #9
                  Get the offy manifold and run a 4bbl (since the offy is 4bbl)

                  Run a solid roller lifter cam and port match the heads and intake. You can the run it up to 7000RPM. Provided you have the right valvetrain components that wont float.
                  1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
                  1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
                  Because... I am, CANADIAN

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                  • #10
                    7000 rpm on stock pistons scares me.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by betterthanyou
                      Get the offy manifold and run a 4bbl (since the offy is 4bbl)

                      Run a solid roller lifter cam and port match the heads and intake. You can the run it up to 7000RPM. Provided you have the right valvetrain components that wont float.

                      What he said. The edelbrock manifold is not something I would ever use.
                      6.5 -7k should have a solid lifter to minimize valve float but a hydralic cam will work to 6300-6400. Stock rods will work fine. I would not be weary of stock gm rod bolts if they are brand new.

                      Never reuse connecting rod bolts is what I have been taught. Exhaust port work and headers are a good ithing to consider at those rpms.
                      1992 Chevrolet S10
                      2.8 v6 tbi 5 speed

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