cam shaft swap help

[Rootie524]

did you notice what im going through at first? crap performance and crap gas mileage? and did you get your VE tune right away? i guess i should..because it might be awhile before i can do anything else.

and i just looked at your cardomain. i must say..very nice dude. you really went all out! i want your engine! haha. That's what i want to do though..get a 3400 block and just build it block up then swap it in. Do you live close to Mark that you could just take the whole block to him or did you ship it? and what kind of numbers are you throwing down at the track? do you have aim or something? im really curious about you alero..haha

[Classick Century Custom]

Not to throw this topic off by any means but since its sorta on point, will the WOT strip cam work with my 9.5 cr?.... I'm gonna purchase the Comp Heads and the Strip for my 3100 motor as we talked about and I noticed it mentioned 9.5 to 11.5 cr compatible. Can anyone back that up just so I am 100% sure. Thanks Steve!!!

[Rootie524]

from my understanding it will work fine you just wont get it up to its full potential is all. still gonna be great gains..and your doing what im doing too with the supporting mods of the heads..good stuff. i hope your getting new springs, lifter springs, and pushrods too and while your in there get the manley retainers and 3500 valves! you won't regret it..haha.

[Classick Century Custom]

from my understanding it will work fine you just wont get it up to its full potential is all. still gonna be great gains..and your doing what im doing too with the supporting mods of the heads..good stuff. i hope your getting new springs, lifter springs, and pushrods too and while your in there get the manley retainers and 3500 valves! you won't regret it..haha.

Thanks bro so along with what I am already planning what else that you mentioned should I pick up please list so I can give it to BEN when I place my order. thanks much!

[Classick Century Custom]

This is what I speced out for the heads, Competition Ported 3100 Cylinder Heads
I will send the parts first: No
Retainers: Stock
Valve Springs: Comp 26986
Valves: Stock 3500
Valve Job: Under .550" Lift
Additional Information:

[Rootie524]

idk how much money you have to spend on this but i would definitely opt for the manley retainers and obviously your going to need the head bolts and a gasket set. and either now or down the road because they are easy to get to..you should consider the competition series ported LIM and UIM set with either a 62 or 65mm throttle body. at that point you should probably start thinking about bigger injectors too to match the now drastically increased air flow.

that's basically everything im doing..so we are going to have close to the same engine if you do all that. What car do you have?

[Classick Century Custom]

Century Custom and thats exactly what I am planning as well, then over the winter I plan on starting a 3400 turbo build or at some point anyway.

As far as the motor now I'm doing the gaskets pushrods and yea I guess the manleys as you mentioned. I already have the Intake, Headers and Exhaust finished, now its time to bump up the cam and heads and yea the upper and lower will be done once BEN stocks more of the 65m TB.

Oh btw with the milling what is the best suggestion for my setup??, I had chosen .20 but I only wanna do whats needed so I am not spending money on shit I don't need, so please tell if you can which milling selection would be best...

[Rootie524]

you got S&S headers or did you custom fab some? and what are the specs on your exhaust?

and im no pro at milling stuff..but from what i have been reading and have been told .020" or whatever it is..either that or .20" seems to be the best bet. dont want to do too much because then the valve to piston clearance gets messed up..then you need different gaskets..and blah blah blah. but .020" is what i want to do. gets just enough off to clean it up and boost compression ever so slightly. you may want to get a second opinion from ben himself or another knowledgeable person on the forums..there are plenty of them. lol

[Classick Century Custom]

Actually there from Pacesetter and they work fine they were application built which shocked the shit out of me seeing that this is not your everyday type of platform to work on but hey who cares to each his own I always say, I know for sure I'm the only one out here with this type of build and its gonna be a nasty one when I am finished mwahahahahahah!!!!...., as far as the milling goes I am thinking the .20 is a safe bet like you said just to ensure a clean flat surface.

[Rootie524]

yeah i was looking at those pacesetter headers just because they are a lot cheaper than the S&S..thinner gauge steel..but bey..life time warranty on them..so they rust through..get them replaced. no one ive talked to had them so if you like them ill probably consider them.

yeah, .20" seems like it will just be the right amount..

and you should get a car domain or something and get some progress photos and stats and stuff..im gotta work on one for my malibu

[Classick Century Custom]

I will start posting on FLICKR soon, updates and so on.

[pocket-rocket]

yeah, .20" seems like it will just be the right amount..

.20" is almost 1/4 inch (1/4"=.25"). You are thinking 20 thousandths, or .020". .20 would be WAAAY too much.

[Rootie524]

yeah..if u looked at my post earlier i had said .020" or .20" i forgot which one it was..

[pocket-rocket]

yeah..if u looked at my post earlier i had said .020" or .20" i forgot which one it was..

I know, I'm just letting you know which it is and putting it in a sense that is easy to understand

[Rootie524]

ok good stuff..went to the dyno today and apparently my car was really screwed up..haha. i started at 130 hp to the wheels then he tuned it in the way must cars are supposed to be tuned and i lost power. i was getting too much gas..so he took some away...then i was getting too little so he gave it some..and adjusted the timing and it made it worse..then he found out that the knock ratard was screwing everything up so he adjusted the sensitivity of that. I'm only running 87 grade gas. So he said the way things are now thats as far as he can tune it because of the knock. He told me to come back next week with 91 grade gas and he will finish it up. today i ended with 146hp at the wheels on 87 and not a full tune. he said to expect low 160s with the 91 and a full tune. and it may not have improved much number wise but i can definitely tell a huge difference. this car gets up a goes. it doesnt sound like much but believe me..im happy and its not even done yet haha. im going to get some video next time its on the dyno.

but my VE is fixed..now we are just going for numbers. so if all goes well if he can get it to 160ish on 91..and then when i port my heads, get bigger injectors, port UIM and LIM, get a 65mm tb, and get headers back exhaust..im hoping ill have around 180hp to the wheels..and i definitely think thats doable..which will make me happy cuz the 3100 is 170hp at the crank stock..so 180 at the wheels would be great.

but i have a few questions. i forget what tranny i have but its pretty weak..how much hp is my tanny good up to. its on a 02 3100 malibu..im not good with transmissions so im clueless.
and the mechanic said something about because of the new power band of the cam in order to get up to its full potential id need a new converter..im assuming he meant torque converter?