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  • #91
    The only gauges I have are spedo, tach, fuel, coolant temp, and a light that can say "low oil" if it can't detect any oil in the bottom of the pan.

    That's about it.
    SpudFiles
    Blast vegetables and whatever else you can think of!
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    1996 3500GP Coupe, "Bright White".
    3500 swap, 60degreeV6 1393 Cam, Ported Intakes, Comp Cams Valve Springs, 65mm TB, Custom Pushrods, S&S Headers, 97 PCM with DHP Powrtuner, 2.5" back to dual Hooker Aerochambers, SS Brake Lines, Addco swaybar, KYB's, Intrax Springs, STB's, etc!

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    • #92
      looking into putting one of these in my '88 retta minus the already mentioned issues(crank trigger, fuel rail, fpr,vacuum lines, power sterring pump, tuning) what else might pose a problem? people are saying the mounts definetly, but others are saying no. anyone have any idea about this and a remedy for it?

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      • #93
        Buy 3500. See what you need. Then make it work
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        1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
        16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
        Original L82 Longblock
        with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
        Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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        • #94
          easy to say, but im not a welder or a fabricator, and if i spend my money on a 3500 i want it to work, so if i buy one and i cant make it work cause im not a welder//fabricator, then i just wasted alot of har dearned money... lol

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          • #95
            Are the stock 3100 injectors at the stock pressure going to be enough to feed this modified 3500?

            Thanks for the sticky btw.
            Last edited by PCGUY112887; 05-31-2007, 12:22 PM.
            SpudFiles
            Blast vegetables and whatever else you can think of!
            Theopia
            Enjoy life online.

            1996 3500GP Coupe, "Bright White".
            3500 swap, 60degreeV6 1393 Cam, Ported Intakes, Comp Cams Valve Springs, 65mm TB, Custom Pushrods, S&S Headers, 97 PCM with DHP Powrtuner, 2.5" back to dual Hooker Aerochambers, SS Brake Lines, Addco swaybar, KYB's, Intrax Springs, STB's, etc!

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            • #96
              Originally posted by PCGUY112887 View Post
              Are the stock 3100 injectors at the stock pressure going to be enough to feed this modified 3500?
              no, you should run atleast #24's with the 43.5 PSI FPR (for a stock 3500)

              I'm running #32 typhoon injectors @ 43.5 PSI
              Past Builds;
              1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
              1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
              Current Project;
              1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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              • #97
                I guess there is no easy way to modify the 3500 injectors to work on a 96 fuel rail?
                SpudFiles
                Blast vegetables and whatever else you can think of!
                Theopia
                Enjoy life online.

                1996 3500GP Coupe, "Bright White".
                3500 swap, 60degreeV6 1393 Cam, Ported Intakes, Comp Cams Valve Springs, 65mm TB, Custom Pushrods, S&S Headers, 97 PCM with DHP Powrtuner, 2.5" back to dual Hooker Aerochambers, SS Brake Lines, Addco swaybar, KYB's, Intrax Springs, STB's, etc!

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by PCGUY112887 View Post
                  I guess there is no easy way to modify the 3500 injectors to work on a 96 fuel rail?
                  not even close..


                  here is a standard Multech 1 VS a 3500 injector

                  Past Builds;
                  1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                  1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                  Current Project;
                  1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                  • #99
                    Oh wow! I've never had any other injector out of a car so I didn't know.

                    Any suggestions on an easy car to find to yank it's injectors? Or anyone happen to be selling any injectors?
                    SpudFiles
                    Blast vegetables and whatever else you can think of!
                    Theopia
                    Enjoy life online.

                    1996 3500GP Coupe, "Bright White".
                    3500 swap, 60degreeV6 1393 Cam, Ported Intakes, Comp Cams Valve Springs, 65mm TB, Custom Pushrods, S&S Headers, 97 PCM with DHP Powrtuner, 2.5" back to dual Hooker Aerochambers, SS Brake Lines, Addco swaybar, KYB's, Intrax Springs, STB's, etc!

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                    • Originally posted by PCGUY112887 View Post
                      Oh wow! I've never had any other injector out of a car so I didn't know.

                      Any suggestions on an easy car to find to yank it's injectors? Or anyone happen to be selling any injectors?
                      Injectors from a 3.4 DOHC would work well, they're #24 @ 43.5 PSI.
                      Past Builds;
                      1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                      1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                      Current Project;
                      1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                      • Well I hope someone here knows anything about tuning this. Main issue right now is just to get it to run as a stock 3500 vs my 3100. I considered trying to take all of the important tables from a 3500 BIN file and put them into my 3100 BIN file, but I don't know how effective that would be.

                        Over on the DHP forums everyone seems to think I need a whole new computer system for it to work.
                        SpudFiles
                        Blast vegetables and whatever else you can think of!
                        Theopia
                        Enjoy life online.

                        1996 3500GP Coupe, "Bright White".
                        3500 swap, 60degreeV6 1393 Cam, Ported Intakes, Comp Cams Valve Springs, 65mm TB, Custom Pushrods, S&S Headers, 97 PCM with DHP Powrtuner, 2.5" back to dual Hooker Aerochambers, SS Brake Lines, Addco swaybar, KYB's, Intrax Springs, STB's, etc!

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                        • Originally posted by PCGUY112887 View Post
                          Well I hope someone here knows anything about tuning this. Main issue right now is just to get it to run as a stock 3500 vs my 3100. I considered trying to take all of the important tables from a 3500 BIN file and put them into my 3100 BIN file, but I don't know how effective that would be.

                          Over on the DHP forums everyone seems to think I need a whole new computer system for it to work.
                          i'm running a 3500 on the stock 91 3.1 computer...

                          If you get the right sized injectors in it and start scanning you may be suprised...
                          Past Builds;
                          1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                          1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                          Current Project;
                          1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                          • Since it won't be a "true" 3500, you can basically make any computer run it. I've said this time and time again - the engine could care less what is controlling it. Its the computer that is requiring specific inputs for proper operation. You could run a 3900 on a 1980s ECM and it would run. Would it run as good as a 3900 in a G6? Probably not, but it would run.

                            With that said, focus on satisfying the needs of your PCM (hence the external crank trigger, the non-electric TB, etc) and go from there. And I wouldn't ditch your 3100 BIN, as I'm sure there are parameters in the 3500 BIN that may not function properly on a 3100 PCM. The main things you will be wanting to take from the 3500 BIN is base spark and fueling. Incorporate that into the base 3100 BIN and tune from there.
                            -Brad-
                            89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power
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                            • Right sized as in say the 3.4 injectors?

                              I want to ensure I am not maxing the injectors I put in it out, I want plenty of headroom so that is why I am kind of unsure of the 3.4 injectors seeing since I'm not far behind you in mods, but your injectors are much bigger.
                              SpudFiles
                              Blast vegetables and whatever else you can think of!
                              Theopia
                              Enjoy life online.

                              1996 3500GP Coupe, "Bright White".
                              3500 swap, 60degreeV6 1393 Cam, Ported Intakes, Comp Cams Valve Springs, 65mm TB, Custom Pushrods, S&S Headers, 97 PCM with DHP Powrtuner, 2.5" back to dual Hooker Aerochambers, SS Brake Lines, Addco swaybar, KYB's, Intrax Springs, STB's, etc!

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                              • You can increase the fuel pressure as well if you need more fuel. At 65psi, 3400 injectors become 26.7#. 4.2 trailblazer injectors are 28#. For NA, you can generalize 280 hp for 28# injectors and 225hp with 22.5# injectors. That isn't the end all be all of injector matching for power but I use that scale.
                                Ben
                                60DegreeV6.com
                                WOT-Tech.com

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