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  • A/C Won't Kick On, LX9 swap

    Here is the deal.. the a/c worked flawlessly before my LX9 swap. Now, after the swap the compressor will not kick on.

    Everything is wired the same. The compressor was unbolted from the dohc bracket and just pushed aside during the swap work. So, in other words, it was never disconnected, evacuated etc.

    While the engine was out I replaced the power steering rack (leaking) for a different used unit. The new one didn't have a p/s pressure switch or the accomdations for one that I could see. So I installed it and left the p/s pressure switch unplugged. Could this be my problem? Thinking it could be, I started the car and turned the a/c controls to Max (which should have kicked on the compressor). Then I used a paper clip to connect the two wires, this simulated high power steering effort and the idle instantly kicked up as I expected. Removed the paperclip and the idle drops to normal idle speed. Can the ecm be confused by never having input from the p/s pressure switch and refuse to turn the a/c on since it doesn't know the status of the p/s pressure and won't risk an idle speed stall? If I recall correctly, years ago I had that connect pulled from the steering rack and the a/c didnt work. PLugged it back in, and a/c worked. Just not sure what role (if any) it plays in a/c operation and how I would skirt around it since my steering rack doesnt have the accomadations for the pressure switch.

    Not sure what else I should be checked - at least electrically. As far as I know there are 3 connectors involved - they are the connector on the compressor that engages the clutch. And then a high pressure/low pressure switch. Is there anything else I am missing? Could the ecm be not allowing the command?

    I also get code 39 after about 15 minutes of driving - the error code for the clutch switch (it is a manual trans car). Can this be an issue? I am not sure why I get this code either. As far as I know the clutch switch is located by the clutch pedal and that was not touched or altered during the swap.
    1991 Grand Prix GTP LX9swap/Getrag 284 --- SOLD =(
    1994 Corvette
    LT1/ZF6
    2006 Dodge Dakota 4x4
    3.7/42RLE

  • #2
    I would say as long as AC is enabled in the ECM still, you should check to make sure you have freon still. There is a chance you could have bumped a line during the swap hard enough to cause it to leak slowly without giving the tell-tale hissing sound.
    -60v6's 2nd Jon M.
    91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
    92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed (getting there, slowly... follow the progress here)
    94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed
    Originally posted by Jay Leno
    Tires are cheap clutches...

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    • #3
      I hope thats not the case! Can't be good for the lungs.

      I have a (really cheap) gauge meant for an r134 system. Will that work on the r12 pressure line? I guess I'm asking if the fitting is the same.

      I will go over the electrical once more. And I have no clue on if it is still enabled in the ecm. I don't see any reason it wouldn't be though.

      For some reason I want to think its all because of that disconnected power steering switch. If I am remembering right I had it unplugged once before and a side effect of that was that the a/c wouldn't kick on. Plugged it in and a/c worked.
      1991 Grand Prix GTP LX9swap/Getrag 284 --- SOLD =(
      1994 Corvette
      LT1/ZF6
      2006 Dodge Dakota 4x4
      3.7/42RLE

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      • #4
        The fittings are not the same, but there are adapter fittings made to go from the R-12 line to R-134a connection.

        If it is the p/s switch, you could always take it out of the old rack and plug it in and tie it up somewhere.

        And no, it's not good for the lungs, but if you can't hear it hissing I doubt it's leaking enough to hurt you unless you carry EPA picket signs all the time.
        -60v6's 2nd Jon M.
        91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
        92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed (getting there, slowly... follow the progress here)
        94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed
        Originally posted by Jay Leno
        Tires are cheap clutches...

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        • #5
          Well I tried to mimic the switch by using a paperclip to short the connector. It worked in the regard that the ecm was tricked and kicked up the idle but it surely didn't engage the clutch on the ac compressor. I'm prolly just remembering wrong and the switch has nothing to do with it.

          I'll dust off the service manuals and troubleshoot the electrical. If that fails then I guess I'll invest in the adapters.
          1991 Grand Prix GTP LX9swap/Getrag 284 --- SOLD =(
          1994 Corvette
          LT1/ZF6
          2006 Dodge Dakota 4x4
          3.7/42RLE

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          • #6
            Is your A/C compressor relay still good and in place?
            -60v6's 2nd Jon M.
            91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
            92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed (getting there, slowly... follow the progress here)
            94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed
            Originally posted by Jay Leno
            Tires are cheap clutches...

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            • #7
              Excellent point - I didn't even check. You know during the swap at some point I remember blowing a fuse somewhere and not having any on hand I borrowed from some unnecessary accessories - can't say if it was the a/c or not or if I ever replaced the fuse that I borrowed but fuse and relay should be the first thing I checked! Thanks for jumpstarting my brain. haha.
              1991 Grand Prix GTP LX9swap/Getrag 284 --- SOLD =(
              1994 Corvette
              LT1/ZF6
              2006 Dodge Dakota 4x4
              3.7/42RLE

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