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  • never seen this happen to a starter

    I finally got around to replacing the starter in my STE. I think I will let the pics do all of the talking.





    Taylor
    1988 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 MPFI
    1990 Pontiac Grand Prix STE 3.1 MPFI
    1994 Olds Cutlass Supreme convertible
    1998 Lincoln Mark VIII
    "find something simple and complicate it"


  • #2
    I've seen one do that before, but that was after I got mad at it and threw it down on the concrete, lol.

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    • #3
      Anger did not do this one. Unless the starter was angry and decided to commit suicide.
      Taylor
      1988 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 MPFI
      1990 Pontiac Grand Prix STE 3.1 MPFI
      1994 Olds Cutlass Supreme convertible
      1998 Lincoln Mark VIII
      "find something simple and complicate it"

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      • #4
        if the starter did that to itself it was likley an Emo starter and very depressed. cutting itself didnt get your attention so it had to break a peice of itself off.

        i have seen that when the starter gets worn out. if the bearings start to wear it put a lot of load on the housing and if the motor kicks back a bit, it can break it.

        if you didnt have a pic of the new starter beside it i would have sugested a 2000+ 3400 starter. a bit more money but a bunch more cranking power and lighter

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        • #5
          I wanted to do the newer starter, but I have had this one in storage forever and a day, so I figured I might as well use it. Besides, the small starter is going into the gold car once the OBD2 swap is finished.
          Taylor
          1988 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 MPFI
          1990 Pontiac Grand Prix STE 3.1 MPFI
          1994 Olds Cutlass Supreme convertible
          1998 Lincoln Mark VIII
          "find something simple and complicate it"

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          • #6
            that sucks!
            Brian

            '95 Cutlass Supreme- "The Rig"
            3400 SFI V6, 4T60e
            Comp Cam grind, LS6 valve springs, OBD2 swap, Tuned
            2.5" DP/ 2.5" dual exh/ Magnaflow Cat/ crap mufflers/ 3500 Intake manifold/ 65mm TB
            TGP steering Rack/ 34mm Sway Bar/Vert STB/ KYB GR2's

            '08 Chevy Trailblazer SWB 1LT "Smart Package"- LH6 5.3L V8/4L60e, A4WD

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            • #7
              I actually expierenced something VERY similiar to this on my X-11. My starter died as a result of the throw out bearing letting loose and cuasing the clutch to shatter!! Result: a starter in 5 pieces!
              Tuning a car is full of compromises. You must decide if you are willing to give up either reliability, performance, or a whole load of cash. Also remember that repairs will seem to come up much more often as you strive for even more performance

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              • #8
                I know that the odds of the same thing happening again is real slim, but I had the same starter explosion happen to me, twice within a month...

                It turns out I had the wrong shims and the starter was actually catching on the ring gear.

                Check your shims, just to be sure

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                • #9
                  there were no shims in there, but it sounded fine. As it is now, I don't have shims, but I can tell it needs them. I have some in my moms storage building, but she paid the bill LATE, so they put a lock on it, and I cant get into there until monday.

                  That just killed all my plans for the weekend. All of my parts, and some of my tools are in there.
                  Taylor
                  1988 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 MPFI
                  1990 Pontiac Grand Prix STE 3.1 MPFI
                  1994 Olds Cutlass Supreme convertible
                  1998 Lincoln Mark VIII
                  "find something simple and complicate it"

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                  • #10
                    That sucks..

                    Do you know how to check for the right clearance?

                    The shims come in a set of different thickness'.

                    Good Luck on Monday.

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                    • #11
                      yeah, I know the drill. Storage is locked up right now, so I cant get in there to get my shims. I just might check to see if I have one of the small starters. Those don't need shims.
                      Taylor
                      1988 Olds Cutlass Supreme 3100 MPFI
                      1990 Pontiac Grand Prix STE 3.1 MPFI
                      1994 Olds Cutlass Supreme convertible
                      1998 Lincoln Mark VIII
                      "find something simple and complicate it"

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