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  • just because u can run 7k rpms doesnt mean u shoul

    i just noticed this & thought it was very funny, the 1.8 v6 mx-3's make max torque & hp at 4500 rpm, yet the redline is at 7k, & every one of these guys i watch on youtube runs their car clear to 7k regardless of the fact that they do much better at 3-4k lower rpms & its not necessary to rev that high as the power drops off when you can just shift & use it as its building to its peak & a bit past. i just think its funny that none of these guys realize that they are ricing without even realizing it (probably). thoughts, anybody got anything funny to say about ricers or a video/story/etc...?

  • #2
    There was a guy on here reving his 3.4 to 8200!

    We couldn't get through to him

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ssdurango View Post
      There was a guy on here reving his 3.4 to 8200!

      We couldn't get through to him
      He won't be doing it very long!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ssdurango View Post
        There was a guy on here reving his 3.4 to 8200!

        We couldn't get through to him
        i hope hes videotaping when it blows!

        3.4 ironhead or 3400?

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        • #5
          Just because you can click this button: doesn't mean that you should
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          1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
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          • #6
            Originally posted by no_doz View Post
            i hope hes videotaping when it blows!

            3.4 ironhead or 3400?
            can a ironhead actually make any power after like 4000RPM? would probably be hitting 6000 and then 8200 in first after a good 3 seconds, so i imagine it wouldn't take more than a few passes.
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            • #7
              I was hitting 6750 on a regular basis on my 1/4 mile runs... I did that because my gear spacing is so f'ed up if I shifted any earlier it would drop the rpm's below my power area and the car would bog.

              Sometimes you run a shift high to make sure when it hits the next gear its in the sweet spot.

              I'm dropping it down to 6200 max now, since I'll have a 3k converter and the nitrous so I doubt I'll have any bog spots LOL

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
                I was hitting 6750 on a regular basis on my 1/4 mile runs... I did that because my gear spacing is so f'ed up if I shifted any earlier it would drop the rpm's below my power area and the car would bog.

                Sometimes you run a shift high to make sure when it hits the next gear its in the sweet spot.

                I'm dropping it down to 6200 max now, since I'll have a 3k converter and the nitrous so I doubt I'll have any bog spots LOL
                true but do mx-3s have gear spacing that damn wide to where they need to run to 7000? i doubt they're in their powerband after they shift. anybody know what kind of gear ratios/final gear mx3s use?
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                • #9
                  I'll agree with that, but most 4 bangers don't make much power unless they are spinning like a top too.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
                    I'll agree with that, but most 4 bangers don't make much power...ever
                    fixed it for ya...
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by robertisaar View Post
                      fixed it for ya...
                      You sure about that?

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnW4W...om=PL&index=57

                      and

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBNCT4AvzMc
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                      • #12
                        Issues who has a 3500 swapped into a Corsica told me the other day he had his up to 8500-9000 once and yes the valves were floating but it survived... LOL

                        And throwing on a turbo on a 4 banger kind of defeats the purpose of the N/A discussion... A turbo will help any motor in the upper RPMs... And yeah there are some high power N/A 4 bangers, but they rev to like 8-9 grand... No thanks.
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                        • #13
                          i've seen the Huber mustang before, when it had the 5.0 badges still on it. but of course a 4 banger will make power with massive amounts of boost, what wouldn't?
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                          • #14
                            A little lesson in physics...

                            Torque is produced by the mechanical, axial (twisting)force converted from thermal combustion. The axial force must overcome the inertia of the standing body since inertia is the force that retains the state of motion and is impacted by velocity

                            Torque in an engine will continue to increase with velocity until mechanical and thermal coefficient loss is equall to the energy produced by combustion.

                            If an engine has been built with enhanced breathing, better thermo-efficiency and sufficient fuel delivery, then coefficient loss is minimized.

                            An engine's horsepower is measured by its peak "power-producing" speed (rpm) x peak torque (ft/lbs) / 550. This means that total power output in an efficiently aspirated and well fueled engine will increase with higher speeds.

                            Now that the lengthy explanation out of the way, what is exactly wrong with building a high revving engine?

                            How is this so "rice" as you put it?
                            Took a break from working on the car. Got some better tools, got a better shop, got a better job... Its time to burn metal!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Driver_10 View Post
                              A little lesson in physics...

                              Torque is produced by the mechanical, axial (twisting)force converted from thermal combustion. The axial force must overcome the inertia of the standing body since inertia is the force that retains the state of motion and is impacted by velocity

                              Torque in an engine will continue to increase with velocity until mechanical and thermal coefficient loss is equall to the energy produced by combustion.

                              If an engine has been built with enhanced breathing, better thermo-efficiency and sufficient fuel delivery, then coefficient loss is minimized.

                              An engine's horsepower is measured by its peak "power-producing" speed (rpm) x peak torque (ft/lbs) / 550. This means that total power output in an efficiently aspirated and well fueled engine will increase with higher speeds.

                              Now that the lengthy explanation out of the way, what is exactly wrong with building a high revving engine?

                              How is this so "rice" as you put it?
                              while all of that is true and proven, have you ever seen a mx-3 built to actually make power at 7000+ RPM? all i see are ricers, thinking "wow, i can hitz 7000 RPMz?" and they do, when they don't have any kind of head/cam work done, which means running the engine that high is slowing them down and wearing the living shit out of their motors. i consider that RICE-A-FUCKIN-RONI!
                              1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                              Latest nAst1 files here!
                              Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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