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  • 1970 2.8 Toyota Corolla from Saskatchewan Canada

    New to the 60DegreeV6 thing. I have a 1970 KE17 Toyota Corolla I bought over a decade ago and I finally picked it up last year....engine is toasted.....was talking to a buddy and I bought a 91 2.8 with a 5 spd with a new clutch from a S10 for $225. I am planning on shoehorning it into the Corolla. I also have an Eaton M90 that needs a new home too, planning on switching the 2.8 to a carb too.

    I have a few questions,

    I neglected to measure the physical length of the 2.8 from fan to back of the head and won't be picking it up for a couple o weeks, what is the length?

    I also have a 95 3.1, was contemplating on putting the aluminum heads on the 2.8 but upon my lackluster research I found my static compression would be too high for a blower......what are your opinions?

    Is there currently an easily sourced cam for a supercharged application or am I going to have to get a custom grind done?

    Thanks in advance!
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  • #2
    No cams for the application are sitting on a shelf, but a custom cam isn't a problem either. We spec flat tappet and roller cams all the time for a wide range of setups. The aluminum heads won't use a distributor very easily, so that might be a consideration, especially if you are going to use a carb. You can swap pistons to take care of compression if you do decide to keep it injected, or want to have a custom manifold made to use aluminum heads and a carb.
    Ben
    60DegreeV6.com
    WOT-Tech.com

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    • #3
      I think I will stick with the iron heads then, I will be making a custom sheet metal intake for the blower.

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      • #4
        Seems like a NA 2.8 would be more than enough for that light weight car.
        95 Beretta 3100 with 3400 intakes and TCE TB
        High flow cat and a Magnaflow muffler
        Grand Prix trans with 3.33FDR

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        • #5
          Yes with a 2.8 and a T5 it will weigh around 1725lbs and I plan on major weight reduction. I think if I get the 2.8 in the car and running this summer I will be happy, will start with a nasty cam swap, plain the heads to bump compression to 9.5:1 and make a tunnel ram intake....ANYONE sell intake flanges?

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          • #6
            Like down to 1,300lbs?
            Here is a topic that is very long, but should give you a ton of info.
            95 Beretta 3100 with 3400 intakes and TCE TB
            High flow cat and a Magnaflow muffler
            Grand Prix trans with 3.33FDR

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            • #7
              what made you say 1300lbs? I just plan on having 2 seats and a few gauges....hopefully be a 1/4 mile car some day.

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              • #8
                The 3500 Midget weighed 1806 lbs. With a cage. Any lighter than that is pretty difficult.
                '89 Firebird, 3500 Turbo, T56, 9-bolt/4.11
                '86 Fiero, 3500, 4-speed

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                • #9
                  Taking a guess at a "major reduction". Power to weight seems to be everything, but balancing both is the key. Short wheel base and a good amount of power can lead to a doughnut maker. Lighter weight makes that worse. Ever played with a RC car that has a strong motor?
                  The other fear I have is that the frame and body will not be able to take as much power as your big plan will be making. NA would be a bit more safe(like you are doing now). Really don't think you need a huge cam, but that is just me.
                  Oh one more, brakes. Those stockers are not going to do the job. Is there something out there that you can bolt on?
                  Not putting you down in any way, it's just a project can make people a bit on the crazy side. Good thing is that passes after time.
                  95 Beretta 3100 with 3400 intakes and TCE TB
                  High flow cat and a Magnaflow muffler
                  Grand Prix trans with 3.33FDR

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                  • #10
                    Totally agree with you Purple pit.

                    I have indeed thought about all of your points as I have planned this car for last few years in my head as I was helping my friend with is race engines and vehicles for the 1/4 mile......nothing has traction problems like a 1980 shortbox Ford with a 545 stroke and 150hp shot of nitrous.

                    N/A might be more than enough, I just wanted to supercharge it as I had it laying around the shop.

                    Brakes: Plan on putting discs and calipers off of a newer corolla or celica

                    Weight: I will be adding roughly 225lbs to the stock weight of approximately 1525lbs. 150lbs of the added weight will be going directly over the front tires, I plan to reduce weight to a point where its like I never added weight to the front. Battery will be relocated to the rear, a 6bolt 1/4 ton diff will be put in the rear(added weight there) also will be running larger 15" tire/wheel combo in the rear, so more weight again. Drive shaft will also be heavier, transmission is longer and heavier, so weight should be evenly distributed.
                    Last edited by 60*Corolla; 04-29-2015, 08:35 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Ok, well you just never know what someone's background is when reading posts. Most of the other guys here near masters or close and will be more helpful than me. I'll be watching this topic for sure.
                      Cool on the brakes, was guessing that newer parts would work.

                      Check out ARI engines, they sell build parts for 2.8/3.1's.

                      Or you can buy this engine and save some time.

                      He owns a auto repair shop and it should be done right. Lets just say he doesn't put up with crap(parts or from people, just FYI).

                      Updated link so you can see it, that is if you couldn't before.
                      Last edited by Purple pit; 04-30-2015, 07:58 PM.
                      95 Beretta 3100 with 3400 intakes and TCE TB
                      High flow cat and a Magnaflow muffler
                      Grand Prix trans with 3.33FDR

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                      • #12
                        Hey, I know engine but specialise in small block chevy's, big block ford's, anything old, 2-strokes, but have no experience with v6's let alone a 60 degree one lol. And I can't thank you enough Purple pit, you have been very helpful. I think I am going to go with the Melling MTC-5 cam, I like the numbers but can't find any info on valve springs, will the stockers handle it?

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                        • #13
                          It's been awhile since I played with a 2.8L but I recall the stock valve springs as barely adequate for the Fiero cam. Not worth the risk IMHO. Looking forward to seeing this combo!

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                          • #14
                            Thanks, makes me feel good to help you and others out!
                            I grew up on the SBC and still have a love for them. Damn easy to build a street engine with good power. A bit too easy if you really think about it.
                            95 Beretta 3100 with 3400 intakes and TCE TB
                            High flow cat and a Magnaflow muffler
                            Grand Prix trans with 3.33FDR

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                            • #15
                              That's precisely why I want to supercharge it, have never done it before. I would be running a stock 2.8 with a carb, 5psi and dual 2.25" exhaust, what do you think it would put out for HP?

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