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    roller lifters with 2.8

    Hello everybody!
    Is there any problem installing roller lifters to 2.8 engine 1987-1994.

    http://www.crower.com/lifters/roller...et-12-375.html
    Crowers sells them for 2.8 engine.

    I been studing this forum of yours and did not find answer.
    I am planning to put a GM 2.8 engine to my race car here in Finland.
    The engine is now a Ford 2600 cc V6 in a Capri.



    I will change engine because I want alumium heads and roller lifters.
    We can make here (near north pole) camshafts of any kind,
    that is no problem.
    But need to know if there is problems with the roller lifters with the block.

    Any links to 2.8 race engines would be nice.
    I mean companys that have built full race engines....

    Thanks , I appreciate your answers.

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    Its not a direct swap, but it can be done, there is a guy on TGO running rollers on a rwd block, but I don't remember who, if you ask in the v6 section he'll probably pop up, pretty sure it was one of the more prominent members in that section.
    No one builds "race" engines on these platforms that I know of, falconer(I think thats the name) built a couple a long time ago, but pretty much on your own these days, unless of course you pay a shop to do the work.
    At any rate, a 2.8 isn't the best place to start, spring for a 3500 if you can, if you are placement limited, then build a hybrid, ie. a 2.8 with ideally 3400 or post model yr 2000 3100 heads, can't run 3500s on a 2.8 though due to the bore difference being too big.
    As far as making the roller lifters work, Idk the details, but something like welding anti-rotation bars to the block I believe, like I said, find the guy with the camaro that did that and he'll tell you, he might be on these boards, but I don't remember, cause I don't remember which guy did it, I think it might have been "bl85c".

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    On 2nd thought after looking at those, they might actually be direct drop in o.O In which case, I'll have to get some for my 3.4....but wait until you hear from someone that knows for sure.

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    Those are drop in solid roller lifters, you need a cam designed to work with solid rollers though. I'm sure you know that already.

    Curtis ran those on his turboZ with good success. You'll need custom pushrods and some good rockers also make sure to get a really good timing set.


    Not a lot of 2.8's get built any more, mostly 3.4's and larger because of the better head selection.


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    Didn't even notice those are for mechanical, if these blocks weren't known to be structurally weak at the lifter valley, I would probably go N/A, crower makes a pretty massive mechanical cam if memory serves, though I think it was flat tappet, but they probably have or could do a mech version of it...But that makes it really tempting, just not worth it to go mechanical though unless you go high rpm...I'm planning to try to aim for 6k max power 7k redline, for block reasons, and stock rod limits.

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    Thanks for your answers .

    The race regulations limits me to 2800 cc max.
    Plan is to get something like 270-300 horsepower out of 2,8.
    That needs a wild camshaft ( = roller lifters) , compression ratio 13:1 , strong short block,
    good heads ( = big valves) and so on.....

    We have here Chevrolet Cavaliers , Buick Centurys .... in jankyards , with a 2,8 V6-engines.
    Can get one easy.

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    That is a lot of compression, a turbo or super setup might be a better route to go, 270-300hp is about the absolute max you could get out of a 2.8 N/A, and it will take all the bells and whistles.

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    He's probably limited to NA if he's limited to displacement.

    I wouldn't doubt 270-300hp is achievable on a 2.8 with the right setup. Look at the aftermarket for the 2.3 Lima engine in my Ranger. It's ridiculous the stuff you can get for it from Esslinger Engineering. If I wanted to I'm sure I could hit 270-300hp no problem NA with it, it would just be a matter of how much I wanted to spend and how radical I wanted to rev it.
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    Oh it is doable, falconer did it, it just takes a lot, but this guy already has ITBs, so I wouldn't doubt he can pull it off

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    Those ITBs look like 3 down draft carbs with velocity stacks to me. I could be wrong though, after all, it does have CNP ignition.
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