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    I want to add a fuel pump upgrade to V6/60 while I am going boosted and N20.

    What are your opinions on this pump from MSD?

    I am looking at the numbers and I dont think it will be good enough. Or maybe I am just trying for overkill.

    Tell me what you think. Even give me a few suggestions.

    I dont know what this means but "ASS HATS" is funny

  • #2
    Maybe if you are going with a fuel cell. Otherwise, you have an in-tank pump, correct?
    Regards,

    Todd E. Johnson

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    • #3
      I bet ya do

      As far as in-tank pumps go, this is your best bet:
      in-tank pump

      she requires a little bit of wire swapping and splicing, but works great. Installation in the OBDII pump assembly vehicles is a bit tricky, but it can be done with some careful work. Price ain't all that bad compared to other internal / external pumps on the market, either.

      pump flow is rated 67gph with max psi rating of 90.

      this pump is a direct replacement for anyone with a late 80's early 90's F-body, too - harness and all
      Last edited by prophiseer; 08-25-2006, 02:45 AM.
      N-body enthusiast:
      {'87 Grand Am SE - 3.0 90* v6} / {'93 Grand Am LE - 3.3 90* v6}
      {'98 Grand Am SE - 2.4 Q4} / {'99 Grand Am GT1 - 3400 60* v6}

      Current Project:
      {'90 Chevrolet C1500 Sport 350TBI}

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      • #4
        Depending on the vehicle you have, it may have a line coming off the pump to a venturi pump in the bottom of the fuel assembly. If you don't supply that line with pressure, you will have issues. I think I remember you had a 3100, but I can't for the life of me remember what vehicle you have...
        Regards,

        Todd E. Johnson

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        • #5
          My car is a cavalier.

          engine is being built.
          3.1L Block
          3400 heads
          3.5L Intake
          4.3L TB
          hypereutectic .40 over Pistons
          hayes rings and Bearings
          High Vol/Pres Oil Pump
          CraneCam 272
          Comp Cams LS6 Valve Springs
          Comp Cams Roller Rockers 1.6 Ratio
          Comp Lifters
          Comp Cams retainers and locks
          MSD DIS-4
          MSD DIS Interface Blocks
          MSD Coils
          MSD Wires
          NGK Iridium Plugs 2 ranges colder
          19# Accel Injectors
          T4 Garret Turbo
          Venom N20 System 125HP w/
          Heater, Blow Down Tube, remote Opener

          I hope this gives you an idea of what I have in mind. So you can see I need more FUEL.
          I dont know what this means but "ASS HATS" is funny

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          • #6
            The walbro intake pump is also a good choice. Flows 255lph (or 67gph so about the same).
            '97 Grand Prix GT 3800 (sold)
            '00 Grand Am GT 3400 supercharged
            13.788 @ 103.73 mph, 320whp 300 ft/lbs
            Gotta love boost!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Identity Crisis
              My car is a cavalier.

              engine is being built.
              3.1L Block
              3400 heads
              3.5L Intake
              4.3L TB
              hypereutectic .40 over Pistons
              hayes rings and Bearings
              High Vol/Pres Oil Pump
              CraneCam 272
              Comp Cams LS6 Valve Springs
              Comp Cams Roller Rockers 1.6 Ratio
              Comp Lifters
              Comp Cams retainers and locks
              MSD DIS-4
              MSD DIS Interface Blocks
              MSD Coils
              MSD Wires
              NGK Iridium Plugs 2 ranges colder
              19# Accel Injectors
              T4 Garret Turbo
              Venom N20 System 125HP w/
              Heater, Blow Down Tube, remote Opener

              I hope this gives you an idea of what I have in mind. So you can see I need more FUEL.
              That's cool, but not why I asked... lol I want to know what exact body style and year of the car for more info on the gas tank and fuel pump assembly

              Because.... If the pump assembly has a venturi, then you should get the 3800 specific walbro kit from ZZP, otherwise, any other in-tank pump with 12ga line will work
              Regards,

              Todd E. Johnson

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              • #8
                I have two tanks.

                A 1992 and A 1994
                I dont know what this means but "ASS HATS" is funny

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                • #9
                  D'oh! Too old for my service manual. Have you pulled the fuel addambly outta them yet? If so, is there a plastic line going from the pump to the bottom of the assembly?
                  Regards,

                  Todd E. Johnson

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                  • #10
                    Nope have yet to pull the sending units.

                    I will do it this week.
                    I dont know what this means but "ASS HATS" is funny

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                    • #11
                      Feul pump upgrade, no stock unit, fuel cell usage

                      I'm looking for suggestions for my 3.5l that will be SC in the next year or two. My car will have a fuel cell so we are talking an external fuel pump. Will the one listed earlier in the thread be a good one to begin looking at?

                      Any other suggestions?
                      -------------------------------------------------------------
                      in build, Stage 1
                      1976 MGB - 3.5l (2004 Malibu), GM V8 T5, 3.9 gear
                      FAST ecm

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                      • #12
                        the msd pump is a decent choice. its also not that much money and would be enough fuel pump for what your building. here are a couple more options

                        Durable High Performance for Low to Medium HP Applications For fuel injection with base pressure between 30-65 psi or carburetion, this pump feeds anything from 150 to 900 horsepower. Also in a Platinum edition for a show-quality polished finish. Specifications -8AN inlet port -6AN outlet port Flow exceeds 450 lbs/hour @ 12 volts/45 psi Fully-submersible for custom in-tank placement Fuel injected engines: Up to 700 HP for naturally aspirated Up to 500 HP for forced air induction Use regulator #027-13101 or #027-13109 Carbureted engines: Up to 900 HP for naturally aspirated Up to 700 HP for forced air induction Use regulator #027-13204 or #027-13301

                        These EFI fuel pumps are also manufactured by Essex Industries. With anodized aluminum housings and high-quality internals, they are both strong and durable. Each pump is factory-tested and includes mounting brackets. 350-1790 features a -10 AN inlet/outlet and a flow rate of 80 GPH at 45 psi for use with high-hp fuel injected applications. The in-line design keeps the pump motor and components cool even under harsh conditions. The new Victor EFI fuel pump 350-1794 is rated at 120 GPH at 45 psi and has -12 AN inlet/outlets and is compatible with all grades of gasoline and methanol type fuels.

                        http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...47713_-1_10307 - comp 110fi
                        High Volume, High Pressure Electrical Fuel Pump At 4psi, this pump can be used in engines producing up to 700 HP. 67 gph @ 45psi (100psi maximum). 3/8'' inlet and outlet. Comes with foam rubber isolator.

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                        • #13
                          Todd.....did you ever get that monster running ?....your GroomLake photos hvnt been updated in a while.

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