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    What is the biggest roller rocker ratio that can fit on a Gen3 set of 3400 heads without Major modifications required?

    1.62:1 , 1.65:1... 1.7:1 ??1.8:1 ????

    Thx.
    ~Rob

    -=ЯoB=- 3400 3spd Z24 ---167Hp, 193Ft-Lbs @ the wheels
    14.99@91.33mph

  • #2
    The only thing out there that we have found to actually fit it 1.6. No one has taken the plunge to try anything larger, mainly for $$ reasons. There are several 1.65 and 1.7s out there that "might" work, but at ~$500 a set, its a risky venture. The clearancing shouldn't be a problem, its bolting them to the heads and maintaining proper geometry that would be the biggest issue.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by bszopi
      The only thing out there that we have found to actually fit it 1.6. No one has taken the plunge to try anything larger, mainly for $$ reasons. There are several 1.65 and 1.7s out there that "might" work, but at ~$500 a set, its a risky venture. The clearancing shouldn't be a problem, its bolting them to the heads and maintaining proper geometry that would be the biggest issue.
      Here's a way to reduce the risk: You don't have ot buy whole sets of rockers to see if they work, you can buy them one at a time. I've done that with lots of parts that normally only seem to come in sets. Crane does it, Harland Sharp does it. Lots of companies will do this. It's not completely without risk though, it will cost you about $30-$40 per rocker.
      He who dies with the most toys is still dead.

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      • #4
        yup, been there done that. Hard to sell a single rocker on ebay though when they dont work.
        Ben
        60DegreeV6.com
        WOT-Tech.com

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        • #5
          harland sharps 1.65 should work since they are a narrow body rocker. summit has a set of 16 for $215.95, part number csp-s1003. i am going to use these when i do my top end swap

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          • #6
            HS rockers will work. They meet all the specifications for a SBC narrow body rocker. But the only issue is with lower intake manifold and valve cover clearance. Crane rockers fit the valve covers but not the LIM. Also you may need to file the guide plates for pushrod clearance. But not a big issue.
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            • #7
              just go with a better cam
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              1993 Cavalier Z24, 3.1/3400 hybrid, crane 272 cam, LS6 springs,port and polish,2.5 exhaust to 80 series flowmaster,solid mounts

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Syn
                just go with a better cam
                but that's more expensive and more work.
                Andy

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                fastest 1/8: 10.19@ 67.17
                fastest 1/4: 16.16@ 82.70

                62mm TB, 1.6 roller tip rockers, Ostrich 2.0, UD pulley, TB heater bypass, K&N, 180* stat, No cat, 99Grand AM dual cooling fans. 4T65E swap FDR 3.69, EP LSD, F.A.S.T. transmission controller, TransGo shift kit.

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                • #9
                  but going with prolly what custom rods and haven to measure them and ect it becomes a good amount of work too

                  just yankin your chain. curious on what someone is gonna try

                  but still upping the ratio won't you have to worry about the springs or no?
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                  1993 Cavalier Z24, 3.1/3400 hybrid, crane 272 cam, LS6 springs,port and polish,2.5 exhaust to 80 series flowmaster,solid mounts

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                  • #10
                    im building a complete engine russ.

                    i got LS2 springs sitting in my basement, cam is still undecided... and pistons... forged 9.0:1 Wiseco's etc etc..

                    was looking at the HS 1.65's a while back but never knew if they'd fit properly.

                    i'll probly just buy them and give'em a whirl.

                    -=ЯoB=- 3400 3spd Z24 ---167Hp, 193Ft-Lbs @ the wheels
                    14.99@91.33mph

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                    • #11
                      why not just go with what you know will work with 1.6, and just get a cam with the lift you are looking for? Russ, i didn't have to measure my p-rods for a different rocker ratio. they are just fine.
                      Andy

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                      fastest 1/8: 10.19@ 67.17
                      fastest 1/4: 16.16@ 82.70

                      62mm TB, 1.6 roller tip rockers, Ostrich 2.0, UD pulley, TB heater bypass, K&N, 180* stat, No cat, 99Grand AM dual cooling fans. 4T65E swap FDR 3.69, EP LSD, F.A.S.T. transmission controller, TransGo shift kit.

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                      • #12
                        dang rob u never told me, def good news to hear

                        going boost as well?
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                        1993 Cavalier Z24, 3.1/3400 hybrid, crane 272 cam, LS6 springs,port and polish,2.5 exhaust to 80 series flowmaster,solid mounts

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Syn
                          dang rob u never told me, def good news to hear

                          going boost as well?
                          yeah i'm building a "built" & boosted 3400 on the side.... that way i can still daily drive my current 3400 z24

                          -=ЯoB=- 3400 3spd Z24 ---167Hp, 193Ft-Lbs @ the wheels
                          14.99@91.33mph

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                          • #14
                            sweet man i've been to windsor a few times and u never answer my pm's whats with that

                            hec from v6 wants to come out
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                            1993 Cavalier Z24, 3.1/3400 hybrid, crane 272 cam, LS6 springs,port and polish,2.5 exhaust to 80 series flowmaster,solid mounts

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by FastGT31 View Post
                              harland sharps 1.65 should work since they are a narrow body rocker. summit has a set of 16 for $215.95, part number csp-s1003. i am going to use these when i do my top end swap

                              I have a 2003 3400, should I be looking at rockers with 3/8"s studs or 7/16"s ??

                              the S1003's have 3/8" stud, whereas the S1006's are 7/16" stud.


                              ....need help....

                              -=ЯoB=- 3400 3spd Z24 ---167Hp, 193Ft-Lbs @ the wheels
                              14.99@91.33mph

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