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  • Did some polishing to my lumina TB.

    Got bored tonight and did a little modding to my lumina throttle body tonight. Still needs some final touches but it definatly should flow better.

    1999 Grand Prix SE 3100
    1997 Dodge Ram 1500 4X4 Ext cab. 5.2L
    1977 Dodge Power Wagon, Short bed, Fuel injected 360, 4spd, Dana 60's, Little Red Express bed.

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    cool daddy-o
    Brian

    '95 Cutlass Supreme- "The Rig"
    3400 SFI V6, 4T60e
    Comp Cam grind, LS6 valve springs, OBD2 swap, Tuned
    2.5" DP/ 2.5" dual exh/ Magnaflow Cat/ crap mufflers/ 3500 Intake manifold/ 65mm TB
    TGP steering Rack/ 34mm Sway Bar/Vert STB/ KYB GR2's

    '08 Chevy Trailblazer SWB 1LT "Smart Package"- LH6 5.3L V8/4L60e, A4WD

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    • #3
      Here is a comparison next to a stock TB, Notice the thickness of the front edge, and the coolant heat riser removed from the bottom.

      1999 Grand Prix SE 3100
      1997 Dodge Ram 1500 4X4 Ext cab. 5.2L
      1977 Dodge Power Wagon, Short bed, Fuel injected 360, 4spd, Dana 60's, Little Red Express bed.

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      • #4
        Neat, what did you use to grind on it?

        I thought about cutting the coolant thing off mine, since my stock 3100 TB didn't have one. Should save a little weight, and weight adds up right?
        sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
        1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
        16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
        Original L82 Longblock
        with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
        Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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        • #5
          I used a dremel

          Not sure a couple ounces will make much difference, But I had a sawsall sitting there while grinding so I thought what the heck its not being used.
          1999 Grand Prix SE 3100
          1997 Dodge Ram 1500 4X4 Ext cab. 5.2L
          1977 Dodge Power Wagon, Short bed, Fuel injected 360, 4spd, Dana 60's, Little Red Express bed.

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          • #6
            might as well knife edge the TB blade while you are at it
            3.4L camaro some goodies

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            • #7
              Originally posted by StudlyCamaro
              might as well knife edge the TB blade while you are at it
              did that with the one on my grand am. looks nice and its better than the air hitting a flat peice.
              sigpic
              99 Grand Am GT
              3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
              Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
              1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur
              515 515 lift 112 lsa
              15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come


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              • #8
                I wonder if on a dyno this mod and the knife edge would even show a difference?
                sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                Original L82 Longblock
                with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by IsaacHayes
                  I wonder if on a dyno this mod and the knife edge would even show a difference?
                  I doubt it will show any gains on a dyno.
                  1999 Grand Prix SE 3100
                  1997 Dodge Ram 1500 4X4 Ext cab. 5.2L
                  1977 Dodge Power Wagon, Short bed, Fuel injected 360, 4spd, Dana 60's, Little Red Express bed.

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                  • #10
                    i agree, however it surely can hurt... and look at all the weight savings from doing it! that bar probably weighed a few grams
                    3.4L camaro some goodies

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                    • #11
                      You mean can't hurt? Yeah I'll be cutting off the coolant thing since I don't have a hookup for it, it's ugly, and bulky.
                      sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                      1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                      16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                      Original L82 Longblock
                      with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                      Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                      • #12
                        If you can find a machine shop locally that has the equipment, you can have the stock TB borded to 60mm (largest you can bore the stock unit) and have a brass plate cut for it fairly cheap; that'll really help too, and a machine shop should be able to do that turn around in a day or two if they're not too busy.

                        I had that same work done to my stock TB for ~$80. Not bad at all
                        N-body enthusiast:
                        {'87 Grand Am SE - 3.0 90* v6} / {'93 Grand Am LE - 3.3 90* v6}
                        {'98 Grand Am SE - 2.4 Q4} / {'99 Grand Am GT1 - 3400 60* v6}

                        Current Project:
                        {'90 Chevrolet C1500 Sport 350TBI}

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                        • #13
                          Nice! That's a TB I could afford! Did that include the plate? Why brass BTW?
                          sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                          1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                          16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                          Original L82 Longblock
                          with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                          Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                          • #14
                            Brass . . . I guess it's easier for them to cut, I'm not entirelly sure

                            But yeah, that price included the plate, and cutting the throttle stem for it to fit and boring the unit out. They used some kind of machine / computer program to do it, along with determining the largest bore possible. They told me anything larger than 60mm on a stock TB and the cast will be to thin and could possibly crack or start to warp around the bore. Even still, 60mm is a decent improvement over the stock 56mm.

                            Hopefully any machine shops near you that can do this will quote you a price similar
                            N-body enthusiast:
                            {'87 Grand Am SE - 3.0 90* v6} / {'93 Grand Am LE - 3.3 90* v6}
                            {'98 Grand Am SE - 2.4 Q4} / {'99 Grand Am GT1 - 3400 60* v6}

                            Current Project:
                            {'90 Chevrolet C1500 Sport 350TBI}

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                            • #15
                              I do have a machine shop (large one) in my city. I guess I can give them a call. I doubt it would be cheap but you never know!

                              On a side note I cut off the coolant passages on my 3400 TB last night. Looks way better. I also got done gasket matching, and bellmouthing 3 of my 3500 ports. Takes about 1 hr per port since my air compressor sucks. When it's re-filling with air I pick up a dremel. Today I'm going to do the other 3, then do the lower plenum (will be easier since it's not far off from the gasket)
                              sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                              1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                              16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                              Original L82 Longblock
                              with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                              Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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