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  • 3.1 to 3400 top end swap ????

    i am thinking of doing this swap what kind of gains are you guys getting with this swap any dynoed results would be great or any other info on this matter would be helpful

  • #2
    Is your motor a 3.1mpfi? Or a 94+ 3100?

    Rough guess is with a 3.1L displacement and the 3400 heads/intakes you'd be at the new style 2000+ 3100. So ~170-175hp. Of course it could be less since the computer may not be optimally tuned, or it could be more if you have exhaust work done/etc.
    sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
    1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
    16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
    Original L82 Longblock
    with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
    Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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    • #3
      wow if its possible to get 180 out of these cars with just some exhaust work, 3400 heads, and tuning, ive gotta try this ou (once my car is running again, that is...lol). good luck man.

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      • #4
        Well, if you look at the stock 3100/3400 numbers, and then you change the top end, the only difference from a stock 3100 is the bottom end, and if you are displacing the same, a good tune should produce the stock numbers.

        I'm guessing here, but if you had a 3400, add cam, UDP, headers, exhaust, CAI, 3500 plenum (or 3500 whole top end; heads up), maybe a little more compression, 65mm TB, and a good tune so it runs optimally, you could see 240hp at the crank, maybe more... Don't forget a correct port and polish.. Remember I'm just guessing, but I believe it to be possible.
        sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
        1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
        16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
        Original L82 Longblock
        with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
        Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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        • #5
          i did the hybrid swap but added a heavy cam, i am now just getting it to run right should be taken it for a spin this weekend.

          but i am hopen for around at least 200whp

          all stock a hybrid is suppose to be in the 14's
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          1993 Cavalier Z24, 3.1/3400 hybrid, crane 272 cam, LS6 springs,port and polish,2.5 exhaust to 80 series flowmaster,solid mounts

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          • #6
            If you're motor is making 240hp, and you have a manual, you probably are putting 200 to the ground.

            Syn, did you use a 3500 plenum? I can't remember. Anywho was the injector o-ring hole vacuum leak the only problem? Or was a coil or two bad?
            sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
            1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
            16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
            Original L82 Longblock
            with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
            Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by IsaacHayes
              If you're motor is making 240hp, and you have a manual, you probably are putting 200 to the ground.

              Syn, did you use a 3500 plenum? I can't remember. Anywho was the injector o-ring hole vacuum leak the only problem? Or was a coil or two bad?
              no i opted for the 3400 as money was a issue as time was. the only probs i have now is idleing at closed loop it won't idle at all. its almost like its in limp mode
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              1993 Cavalier Z24, 3.1/3400 hybrid, crane 272 cam, LS6 springs,port and polish,2.5 exhaust to 80 series flowmaster,solid mounts

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Syn
                Originally posted by IsaacHayes
                If you're motor is making 240hp, and you have a manual, you probably are putting 200 to the ground.

                Syn, did you use a 3500 plenum? I can't remember. Anywho was the injector o-ring hole vacuum leak the only problem? Or was a coil or two bad?
                no i opted for the 3400 as money was a issue as time was. the only probs i have now is idleing at closed loop it won't idle at all. its almost like its in limp mode

                Get some datalogs of that thing
                Past Builds;
                1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                Current Project;
                1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                • #9
                  my lab top only has a serial port, and i've heard i need a usb so can i or not use a serial port aldl cable? anyone know where the cheapest place to get one is?
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                  1993 Cavalier Z24, 3.1/3400 hybrid, crane 272 cam, LS6 springs,port and polish,2.5 exhaust to 80 series flowmaster,solid mounts

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Syn
                    anyone know where the cheapest place to get one is?
                    -Brad-
                    89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power
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                    • #11
                      i was watching that but wasn't sure if thats what i needed

                      thanks
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                      1993 Cavalier Z24, 3.1/3400 hybrid, crane 272 cam, LS6 springs,port and polish,2.5 exhaust to 80 series flowmaster,solid mounts

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Syn
                        my lab top only has a serial port, and i've heard i need a usb so can i or not use a serial port aldl cable? anyone know where the cheapest place to get one is?


                        why does everyone call them lab tops? it's a laP top... cause it fits in your lap... i personally have a lab at work and in my lab i have 4 desktop computers...
                        Past Builds;
                        1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                        1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                        Current Project;
                        1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Superdave
                          Originally posted by Syn
                          my lab top only has a serial port, and i've heard i need a usb so can i or not use a serial port aldl cable? anyone know where the cheapest place to get one is?


                          why does everyone call them lab tops? it's a laP top... cause it fits in your lap... i personally have a lab at work and in my lab i have 4 desktop computers...
                          haha i never noticed

                          i use to call curbs curves too
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                          1993 Cavalier Z24, 3.1/3400 hybrid, crane 272 cam, LS6 springs,port and polish,2.5 exhaust to 80 series flowmaster,solid mounts

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Syn
                            Originally posted by Superdave
                            Originally posted by Syn
                            my lab top only has a serial port, and i've heard i need a usb so can i or not use a serial port aldl cable? anyone know where the cheapest place to get one is?


                            why does everyone call them lab tops? it's a laP top... cause it fits in your lap... i personally have a lab at work and in my lab i have 4 desktop computers...
                            haha i never noticed

                            i use to call curbs curves too

                            Damn, I'm mesmerized by your avatar....

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                            • #15
                              ok i got a ALDL cable ordered it sunday noight should be here hoprfully by friday so i can get some data logs finally
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                              1993 Cavalier Z24, 3.1/3400 hybrid, crane 272 cam, LS6 springs,port and polish,2.5 exhaust to 80 series flowmaster,solid mounts

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