Is there anyway I can beat a LT1 that is pushing 500hp?

[xtremesunfire]

Hi Guys
I am just wondering if I can beat a LT1 that is pushing 500hp? bc right now I got a not complete 3400 motor that is factory build and i am just wondering if there is anyway i can keep up or beat my assistant manager 96 s-10 LT-1? bc my assistant manager is saying there noway i can beat him with my 3400 motor in my sunfire and i would like to show it to him i can beat him with my 3400.

[Doubt_Incarnate]

try a road course track, i doubt you'll hold anything in a 1/4mile, but in the turns, maybe your cars suspension will shine thru, unless that 3400 added to much weight. a stock 3400 in a late J body is like 14's i think, a v8 s-10 is probly slightly faster, and add in a couple hundred more HP... well its just 2 different classes thats as plain as it gets.

[DEI37]

I'd say you'll have a tough time. Do a good build on the engine, turbo it, and cam it, along with good head work, and a good exhaust, and it might be a race, but if he's serious, and can launch the thing, I think you'll have a tough time.

[napatiger]

try a 300 shot of nitrous, and make a video for us......

You might be able to beat him on a snowy road.

[xtremesunfire]

i want to see if he can get to 500hp first bc im thinkin he is fucking bullshiting about it

[BlackJack]

sunfire, heavy over the drive wheels.
S-10, light over the drive wheels.

LT1 in an S-10? Likely, if you can actually hook up your traction after a nice build up.

Tie down your front end so you limit upward body movement on launch, and spring-block the ass so it doesn't squat. You'll have more weight hammering the front end down and pull on him. I doubt seriously that an S-10 can hook up that light rear end very well, and that may be your only saving grace.

But that does leave you with a CHANCE.

[JMo60]

What is done to this LT-1? has this truck ever been to the track or a dyno? or is he just making these numbers up? because a stock/mildly modified LT-1 should be able to be beat by a 3400 with say a 50 or 75 shot.

[geoffinbc]

Fuck you'll get owned over and over. If he is lowered with descent sized roll bars he will smoke you on a track too.

2WD S-10's weigh 3200 to 3400LBS. With 500 HP (asuming that is real numbers) it will be very fast. VERY FAST, faster than any stock Camaro.

Your 185 HP wont stand up for a second.

[xtremesunfire]

its not a even a complete LT-1 bc he told me he haves it all in to parts and its not even dynoed yet oh p.s my 3400 isnt a complete motor either so i can still add more performance to it

[geoffinbc]

Well in a hypathetical world it still doesn't work.

[onefastV6]

I know a guy that has a supercharged 4.3L 2001 S-10 that he put down 400HP on a Dynoject dyno and his best run was a 12.7 in the quarter mile, and he was using drag radials. The problem with an S-10 is that it is hard to get them to hook up as weight distribution sucks.

A stock 96 F-body LT1 put out 285HP to the crank, what else is he doing to the engine to get his "500 HP" ?

[BlackJack]

that's pretty much what I was trying to say. Traction. Unless he's done some MAJOR stuff for weight distribution on the S-10, I still say he has a chance on a WELL BUILT 3400 to at the very least keep up. No doubt raw horsepower of that LT-1 (if it's built as claimed) would own the 3400, but not if he can't put the power to the ground. In fact, the more HP/torque in the S-10, the harder it is to get grip.

[xtremesunfire]

my assistant manager was running his mouth saying i wount have a chance of beating him with my 3400 and i was like i wount be laughing bc i told him that i got the hook ups to build my 3400 up.

[SHOoff]

Road course. The 3400 isnt that much heavier than the 2.2. Granted I havent got the chance to really push mine yet, but when driving around it doesnt feel funny like it's got a lot of extra weight in the front.

Tires..... 3400 > street tires. Granted mine are fairly cheap which probably doesnt help. I find that i have NO traction in 1st gear. Slam to 2nd, and I once again, have not enough traction. 3rd gear can spin for a bit too.

Suspension, definately. Anything to help it stick to the ground will help. Blocking the rear end, uhm... yeah. Mine gets a LOT of movement now. The 3400 is pretty good at hammering on stock suspension pieces. I'd go with the poly control arm bushings, subframe brace. Definately going to need to go with an LSD as well. Short shifter might not be such a bad idea either. Mine dont like getting ripped from 1-2.

You may also, since it's a 3rd gen, want to strengthen the radiator support (at this point, i'm not exactly sure HOW to do this) and use the front engine mounts for a W-body to hold the motor still. Once it gets warm out, i'm going to get an assistant and go see how much my engine moves with the 2 mounts that it currently has.

500hp? I dunno. I'd think that, if properly set up, the the 500hp S-10 is probably going to beat you down still due to the traction. You start pushing that number and FWD isnt going to be really friendly.

[Guest]

As I said on V6, you WILL get owned! Hard, even if he comes off the line soft, he will have enough power to chase you down and beat you like a step a kid.

My heavier Jimmy with half the power. street radials, and no traction would own you.
Now that I have some traction, some decent tires and will have more power, I should be able to hang with that S-10 you are going to get owned by.