3400 Camshaft

[Guest]

My point is, not every cam is good for every application, and if there's no dyno numbers, how can you assume that the HP production of just the cam will suit your needs, give the powerband that you desire, etc....

Then figure out your GD specs then genious. Milzy has the cam cores. So buy a cam core and tell him what specs to give to cammotion. Then you know tht your cam will work perfect with your application!!!! BEcause you are the super genious that did the homework on your specific goals and ti will fit your powerband and suit your needs.

if you dont' have the money to get a cam then quit crying that you dont' know the specs. He can get them ground to any specs you want.

[BlackJack]

still have hurt feelings I see.

I know what specs I need. I know what specs are possible for the engine I am building.

The part you dont get is I made an issue of it for more than my own benefit you selfish moron.

It's a matter of principal, and may somehow benefit the general 3100/3400 community as a whole, not just myself. There's alot of people out there that really dont see the big picture (you included). So when you talk about who's crying about what, I'm just wondering what prompted you to want to continue this debate. Anything further to add, or do you feel you must have the last word to save what's left of your pitiful self image?

[El_Diablo]

cammotion will charge $380 flat for any cam spec you want, milzy changes the prices around and i bet he would charge a bit more for a "custom cam" and you cant tell me that with a 6 month order for all cores made that hes not getting a quantity discount


you wanna say hes doin this shit fair and even then go ahead, its been shown for a fact that hes overpricing the "stage 2" cams

in my opinion all cams he offers should be a flat rate and maybe for custom cams a diduction of the discount he gets so that he makes the same profit




oh and shaun, ever get dropped as a child?

[Guest]

Well maybe you should have come up with the idea and done all the leg work so you guys could be reaping the rewards.

Sound like a bunch of haters to me. Green?

[BlackJack]

This is so old. Apparently you dont actually "read" what you're replying to, and just think you need to add something. This indicates a literacy problem, compounded by a lack of self-esteem.

Try this link and it might help you solve your crisis:

http://www.starfall.com/

Show the world that you really do have a brain, and not just a keyboard running amuck.

It's a matter of principal, and may somehow benefit the general 3100/3400 community as a whole, not just myself.

Well maybe you should have come up with the idea and done all the leg work so you guys could be reaping the rewards.

[BlackJack]

this topic is no longer of use to anyone, recommend lock?

[SappySE107]

Shaun, don't you have a fiero site to rag on? I think you do.

Id like to know what the range of regrind specs are first off. For the money I bet a lot of people would rather go with it. For the all out people, milzy and cammotion are all we got short of another custom cam that costs more. I had money, which I don't, I would buy up a ton of cores as well. If he doesn't get them for less than 380 each, he made a poor decision buying them all up cause profit margin is important.

He hasn't gotten back to me on the complete cam specs that he sells. I dunno if he will but I am curious how they turn out in simulation right now.

[tejohnson]

I had intent to buy one. Now who knows. Pistons are my first priority, and I have all that would be needed for the specs. I may knock on Cammotion's door for giggles, but it is lookin more and more like I may stick with a stock cam.

It is kinda funny, cause I had original intent to stay stock due to a strong recommendation from Comp... But eveyone else has been trying to "pressure" me. lol

[geoffinbc]

Stay stock... BOO...

Get a regrind. Well worth it. You can greatly increase torque by adding lift. Duration will really wake up the top end too. And no the bottom end wont fall flat on its face like some say. It may be reduced slightly. But I bet you wont even notice or care.

[tejohnson]

I will be staying below .475 lift. Yeah, I like the thought of a tad more duration, but I'm just scared of the exhaust pressures... And well, my stock cam is pretty much trash considering the cam bearing journals were eaten up pretty good. I need all the bottom end I can get. The top end actually rocks already. Just wait till it sees a few more PSI (Wish I had a cheap [as in free] copy of desktop dyno... lol)

[El_Diablo]

(Wish I had a cheap [as in free] copy of desktop dyno... lol)

word of advice......... watch out what desktop dyno hack you get or you yourself may end up with a nasty virus

[AaronGTR]

Regrinds on stock cams suck. Besides the fact that having to grind the base circle to increase the lift changes your geometry so you have to get custom pushrods, you also can't change the intake and exhaust centerline or the lobe seperation. You're also limited in how much you can change the lift and duration, all of which is important, especially on a boosted engine. And on top of that, some places won't even do a regrind on a cam with pressed on lobes like ours. Go with a new billet one. For the price difference you'll get more out of it. My question is, who's charging $400 for a cam? Mine wasn't that much and it has custom specs. It was $350 out the door.

[bu01]

milz is charging 400 for "stage" 1 and 430 for "stage" 2 plus shipping

[AaronGTR]

Heh, beggars can't be choosers. It's all thats available, and like someone said, this is a small market. They aren't mass producing them like cams for honda's and chevy V8's. Of course it's going to cost more. I think it's a reasonable price. I think people just like to whine when the price changes. Get over it. He's running a business and sometimes you have to do that to cover costs and still make a profit. He's not doing this for free ya' know.

[SappySE107]

Um, so can you tell me what specs a regrind can get you? Without that, you can't tell me they suck. less than 150 for a regrind vs 400+....bang for the buck? I don't think anyone would complain if mike hadn't made himself the only option at a higher price vs cammotion being the only option as they make them. Its unnecessary and at the bulk he bought I wouldn't expect him to be losing money by charging 385 shipped like he was. How you got one for 350 is beyond me. Thats the lowest price I have heard yet.