Anyone used miltz motor sports Automotive?

[jeremy96gase]

They have cams & heads for 3x00, and they are building headers for 3x00 N-bodys (not listed).

http://www.milzymotorsports.com/

They also have headers and for 3.4DOHC, but they are kind of ugly.

[RebelGT]

RE: Anyone used miltz motor sports Automotive?

looking at those headers alone, i don't think i'd get anything they've made, the shitty build quality is overly apparent.

[MilzyZ34]

RE: Anyone used miltz motor sports Automotive?

we made this also, is this shitty? ... http://www.60degreev6.com/index.php?...er=asc&start=0

those are one-off prototype headers that were made for function more than looks.

you can see in the link above our latest work for the dohc.

Rebel, i seriously don't care if you don't buy any of our products. that just means other people will be faster than you.

[geoffinbc]

Where are all the cam specs? How thick are the header flanges?

Stuff looks good but to me the descriptions are vague.

[SappySE107]

Im building parts for his motor milzy, you wanna race him maybe?

[geldartb]

stuff definately looks good. but some detailed specs would be helpful.

[MilzyZ34]

Im building parts for his motor milzy, you wanna race him maybe?

i don't think it'd be real fair to race him in my car, but if he wants to, sure

[MilzyZ34]

Where are all the cam specs? How thick are the header flanges?

Stuff looks good but to me the descriptions are vague.

we haven't got the specs up yet, they wil be up in the next week or so.

the flanges are 3/8's.

[SappySE107]

You are right, it wouldn't be fair. You wouldn't have a chance, and it has nothing to do with what im doing for him, though that is just icing on your cake. Just wanted to point out your poor assumption that people will be slow if they don't buy your stuff. Besides, your headers do look like ass and we have gone over that many times. What does that have to do with how fast he goes? Looks like you are just bragging and getting offensive over comments. If you don't like the comments, why don't you change your products instead of posting crap like this?

Im not gonna get into an arguement over this, i just find it amusing.

[jeremy96gase]

Re: RE: Anyone used miltz motor sports Automotive?

we made this also, is this shitty? ... http://www.60degreev6.com/index.php?...er=asc&start=0

those are one-off prototype headers that were made for function more than looks.

you can see in the link above our latest work for the dohc.

Rebel, i seriously don't care if you don't buy any of our products. that just means other people will be faster than you.

I don't mean to be insulting, but your not winning any points with the outcome of that install.

Any pictures of production headers?

Can you post cam specs on the forum?

[MilzyZ34]

You are right, it wouldn't be fair. You wouldn't have a chance, and it has nothing to do with what im doing for him, though that is just icing on your cake. Just wanted to point out your poor assumption that people will be slow if they don't buy your stuff. Besides, your headers do look like ass and we have gone over that many times. What does that have to do with how fast he goes? Looks like you are just bragging and getting offensive over comments. If you don't like the comments, why don't you change your products instead of posting crap like this?

Im not gonna get into an arguement over this, i just find it amusing.

i'm not knocking your dohc engine building skills, i just don't think your buddy will stand a chance of catching me. he will need some boost and some very serious mods to even have a chance. my car isn't exactly slow.

[AaronGTR]

Give the guy a break... his website just went up yesterday. I'm sure he has lots of updating to do. As for the parts, I can't speak from experience, but I did just order a cam from him and so far my dealings with him have been very good. He's been very helpfull, and got me an engine part first that so far no one else has offered. I'll let you guys know my results when I get it installed. Until then lets just wait and see, and play nice while we're waiting.

[bszopi]

I wouldn't really say he got it first... 3x3 started the whole process (or at least took over from Chris White) almost 2 months before Milzy hopped on. I'm sure both had some input into the project, but 3x3 really got the ball rolling by providing Cam Motion with sample cams and alot of other technical data about the changes between the years from me. If none of that would have been done, there is a good chance that a cam still wouldn't be available. Unfortunately, 3x3 was still trying to work with the big cam suppliers to get a real name behind the cams, but they all backed out. Therefore, Milzy's came out first. But I guess we will see when someone gets some dyno info. Until then, I'll just keep my mouth shut.

[bszopi]

And as proof to the above statement...

How this whole thing started off is with a call to Cammotion after receiving this as a contact from Chris White back in July. I contacted Cammotion and spoke with them 2 to 3 times a week about making these cores since Comp Cams refused to make them. In August and September I continued with persuading them to make these. Eventually after hearing from me day in and day out the owner agreed but he wanted specs on the cam and he wanted the actual stock cams. I was able to purchase the 99 & 03 I think I can't remember the years now, cams off of Knappy and V6.H.O. The 99 Cam I bought over a year and half ago was the cam that I sent to Comp Cams. Once Comp fell through originally I asked for them to ship it to Cammotion. The cam was sitting in their office for several months at that point. Now that Cammotion had the stock cams they were able to start the process. During this time I was asked a lot of questions about the cam sensor, further specs, firing order which is where Bszopi helped a lot along with Spoon. Things started to come together but issues continued to come up. Projects needed to be finished right away for trade shows, needing material, the company was expanding and moving into another building etc. All of these were compounding issues that slowed the progression. During the months of December through March Comp Cams was on board to purchase the cores from CAMMOTION. For some reason Comp Cams one day when I called them to work out some further details on the sale price and expected timeframe to turn this around to the public once they receive the cores, just said we are not going to buy the cores. So this left me to try to get another buyer because CAMMOTION really isn't a B2C retailer for cams in a big way like Comp Cams. So I contacted Crane and it seemed to me that all they were interested in was giving comparisons on how great they are compared to Comp Cams and CAMMOTION. I didn't have time for this. At the same time I contacted ZZPERFORMANCE and asked if they were interested in getting into the 3.4L market with the cams. I provided Zoomer the contact information. I still don't know whether Zoomer will do anything with this. I'm tired of trying. So Bszopi gave me another company to contact about having another company sell this cam. The more retailers the better. As the project was nearing the end I found out that someone from Dayton was looking to get 10 or 15 cams out of the cores that were being made. Originally I thought it was someone who I didn't know but then I realized that a lot of updates that Milzy had were closely related to the problems that I was encountering. Sure enough he was. So after explaining this issue with the buyers to CAMMOTION they agreed to sell the cam. There you go. That's the story in a nutshell.

Cammotion
Phone # 225.926.6110.

[MilzyZ34]

for your information, i knew nothing of your connection with cammotion when i called them the first time, then they mentioned someone else who was calling them about the same thing. i was referred to them through one of the employees of Intense.

well i've said what i had to say. i'm obviously not welcome here, so carry on bashing products you know nothing about.

Rebel if you seriously want to race, i'm sure you can find me.