Iron Vs. Aluminum, the Final say!

[ericjon262]

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/127199.html

[caffeine]

What a joke. I'll be dynoing my Fiero on Saturday and it basically has a free flowing exhaust using two front 3500 manifolds and is otherwise completely stock right down to using the stock air box and paper air filter.

[Superdave]

lol... "Race Prepped"

it's not worth my time or energy to join over there and make a reply but you can let them know that it made those dyno numbers on 89 octane E10. It was perfectly streetable in the 5 speed cavalier, and in the Camaro even more so. The converter is pretty loose but i have no problems getting around. It even managed to break the 10 bolt rear end w/o the ITB's installed (stock plenum with a 75mm TB).


Have him post up 1 single N/A iron head 5 speed engine combo that puts down 275WHP/250WTQ, gets 30+ highway MPG, runs fine on 89 octane and is reliable enough to DD and has a torque curve like this: http://www.sdsgarage.com/Misc/3500/08-Dyno.gif

My setup is far from race prepped with it's completely stock bottom end, stock rockers, home built headers, home ported top end, etc...


lol, a book from 1982.. it's 2013.

[Superdave]

BTW, I trapped the same speed with the stock 3500 plenum/75mm TB VS the ITB's last time i was out.

[SappySE107]

Arguing with fiero owners is like breathing underwater without scuba gear. You can, but its not going to do you a damn bit of good.

[3400-95-Modified]

Arguing with fiero owners is like breathing underwater without scuba gear. You can, but its not going to do you a damn bit of good.

I think you need to generalize that comment and say "idiots" because stuff like this is NOT specific to Fiero owners only.

Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[Superdave]

Thank god Cavaliers and Berettas got aluminum head engines stock.

If the rest of us were as ignorant as some of those guys the world would be a boring slow place. It's nice to see a few people on there who understand logic though. lol


Some 3rd gen V6 Fbody owners are the same way, it must be an iron head thing in general.

[SappySE107]

I think you need to generalize that comment and say "idiots" because stuff like this is NOT specific to Fiero owners only.

Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

No, I am not calling them idiots. I am saying those that have an opinion already will keep it no matter how much evidence you provide.

[3400-95-Modified]

No, I am not calling them idiots. I am saying those that have an opinion already will keep it no matter how much evidence you provide.

agreed, but it's still far from just Fiero owners who are like that. I guess idiots is the wrong term and stubborn people is a bit more fitting...

[SappySE107]

I never said it was only fiero owners.

[3400-95-Modified]

Perhaps not but I was trying to remove the generalization that all Fiero owners are that stubborn, which could be misinterpreted from your statement. Just trying to keep the peace.

[Mars]

Does anyone know if I can put GenI iron heads on a 3900 ?

I wanted to go with the superior iron heads for the '13 racing season in the Camaro.

[Superdave]

Does anyone know if I can put GenI iron heads on a 3900 ?

I wanted to go with the superior iron heads for the '13 racing season in the Camaro.

You should put a set or 2 in the hatch for traction.

[ericjon262]

Arguing with fiero owners is like breathing underwater without scuba gear. You can, but its not going to do you a damn bit of good.

whoa whoa whoa! come on now! you got a couple of fiero owners on here who have a little sense!

[ericjon262]

lol... "Race Prepped"

it's not worth my time or energy to join over there and make a reply but you can let them know that it made those dyno numbers on 89 octane E10. It was perfectly streetable in the 5 speed cavalier, and in the Camaro even more so. The converter is pretty loose but i have no problems getting around. It even managed to break the 10 bolt rear end w/o the ITB's installed (stock plenum with a 75mm TB).


Have him post up 1 single N/A iron head 5 speed engine combo that puts down 275WHP/250WTQ, gets 30+ highway MPG, runs fine on 89 octane and is reliable enough to DD and has a torque curve like this: http://www.sdsgarage.com/Misc/3500/08-Dyno.gif

My setup is far from race prepped with it's completely stock bottom end, stock rockers, home built headers, home ported top end, etc...


lol, a book from 1982.. it's 2013.

lol, I've been begging for a dyno of a IH motor with a torque curve like that, he has yet to produce one!