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  • Questions Regarding the HT 3.4 / 3400 Hybrid

    Hello, everyone. I have a HT 3.4 crate engine with low miles (under 15k), and would like to get some more power out of it. I already installed long-tube headers, a lumpy cam, a Trueleo intake manifold, and DIS. But I still want more power. The first thing to come to mind was the Gen-3 aluminum heads. I think the cast iron heads are holding it back.

    I searched through threads regarding hybrid builds on the forum, and found some useful info. But unfortunately, there are a few technical details I could not find. They are as follows:

    1) If I keep the HT3.4 pistons, will there be an issue with piston-to-valve clearance?

    2) If I keep the HT3.4 pistons, the compression ratio will be pretty high (around 12.5:1, according to my calculations). That would make the engine a pretty good candidate for E85, wouldn't it?

    3) Since the HT3.4 block has flat-tappet lifters, the stock 3400 pushrods probably won't work. Does anyone know what would be the correct length pushrods for this type of engine?

    4) I see people using LS6 valve springs on the 3400 heads. But I couldn't find the reason for that. Can someone educate me?

    And last, but not least...

    5) Are the 3400 and 3500 upper intakes reversible? The engine will be going into a Fiero, which has the upper intake manifold turned around backwards.

    Now, just for fun, here's a little info on the engine, and the car it pushes around. As mentioned above, the engine is a HT3.4 crate engine, which I bought and installed in the Fiero a couple years ago. The engine only has about 13K miles on it. It has custom intake and exhaust manifolds, which I bought from Trueleo. The intake manifold was custom-built for a Buick GN throttle body. The engine is mated to a HM282 5-speed, from a Chevy Beretta. Here are a few photos of it:





    The Fiero is my project car, and is in the process of being transformed into a "track day toy". There's still plenty of work to do, but it's coming along nicely. Here are a few photos of the car:







    Anyway, thanks in advance for helping me out. And try to go easy on the new guy.
    Last edited by Blacktree; 07-09-2011, 09:31 PM.

  • #2
    After sifting through the forum for awhile, I've found answers to most of my questions. I feel I know enough to start the build. But there's just one thing bugging me.

    I'm concerned that the HT3.4 pistons may not be able to handle the compression. Is this a real concern? Or am I just being paranoid?

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    • #3
      You just being paranoid. Larry

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      • #4
        It seems like you have a lot invested in this motor already. I wonder if you shouldn't yank it as is, wrap it in plastic for storage, or sell it and start fresh with a 3400/3500/3900.

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        • #5
          It is a lot of compression, assuming that this is a 3.4 rwd engine, and has the same dish as mine with stock pistons, from what I recall when I looked into it, with a 260 grind cam running highest octane regular pump gas it would've been on the edge of doable, as in, may or may not detonate. If you run a large enough cam and or e85 it should be doable, what you really need to look at is the dynamic CR, not the static. Dynamic takes into account the cam.
          As a side note, I think ben, aka wot tech actually sells a kit for the 3.4 RWDs now.
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          • #6
            Use the 3500 top end, the larger head chambers will drop the static compression down a little and the added flow will help you out.

            Yes, the LIM and UIM are reversible. Mine are on backwards since my 3500 is in a RWD config now.
            Past Builds;
            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
            Current Project;
            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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            • #7
              Doh, forgot that my CR calculations were using that top end, it has larger CCs, so for 3400 heads, you would have to have a pretty radical cam, or a hot cam with e85.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Blacktree View Post

                5) Are the 3400 and 3500 upper intakes reversible? The engine will be going into a Fiero, which has the upper intake manifold turned around backwards.
                The fiero intake isn't actually on backwards, it just appears that way because you're looking at it from the opposite side... it's only backwards if you're comparing it to the camaro/firebird 2.8/3.1/3.4 motors.
                "I am not what you so glibly call to be a civilized man. I have broken with society for reasons which I alone am able to appreciate. I am therefore not subject to it's stupid laws, and I ask you to never allude to them in my presence again."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by neophile_17 View Post
                  It seems like you have a lot invested in this motor already. I wonder if you shouldn't yank it as is, wrap it in plastic for storage, or sell it and start fresh with a 3400/3500/3900.
                  +1

                  the money you'll spend on just a top swap will buy you a whole motor. I paid $450 for my 3500 shipped from Minnesota to Pensacola, Fl. and the motor has 38,000 miles.
                  "I am not what you so glibly call to be a civilized man. I have broken with society for reasons which I alone am able to appreciate. I am therefore not subject to it's stupid laws, and I ask you to never allude to them in my presence again."

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