Custom Intake Manifold

[bob442]

i think i'm going to scrap the idea of a S/C, be happy with a N/A, shoot for 230 WHP with 3.69:1 gears, and just drive it.

[kwhauck]

Seriously though, there is all sorts of room utilizing a design such as this.

[bob442]

you cant though, your better off to start with a milled off version of the original intake, because there has to be room for push rods inbetween the intake ports, which makes this that hardest obstical, its do-able, but it will have to see a mill once the base is made... then again, and again... i didnt even thing about it myself till i had the intakes off and i was like SOAB, this wont be so easy.

I'll get a nice choppy cam and be as happy as possible.

[bszopi]

you cant though, your better off to start with a milled off version of the original intake, because there has to be room for push rods inbetween the intake ports, which makes this that hardest obstical, its do-able, but it will have to see a mill once the base is made... then again, and again... i didnt even thing about it myself till i had the intakes off and i was like SOAB, this wont be so easy.

I'll get a nice choppy cam and be as happy as possible.

What are you talking about?!? The design would be similar, not exactly like that. And it most likely wouldn't be milled, but multiple pieces of aluminum welded together. Sure, pieces could be milled, but they could also be laser cut or water-jet cut. That is basically the exact same idea I was thinking, only having different top pieces for different applications. One of these days, I'll get my spare engine from the other house over here, and I'll start mocking something up.

[bob442]

yes, of course its possible, its just more work than i would intend on doing right now with my crack addiction of project cars. multiple pieces would have to be cut, then welded on and in place, and a final mill for the 60* wedge would have to be done to ensure its sitting flat and straight before you weld on and figure out heights of mounting surfaces (aka blower) then after its all said and done, and it odviously being made out of plate aluminum, it would have had a chance to warp slightly, so i would get everything milled yet once again.
With our intakes theres 6 separate sealign surfaces to each side, and one on the bottom, thats alot to get right after all that work, where as a SBC hads one per side. each intake runner, coolant jacket, and valve cover area has to be sealed perfectly. i never thought about this before till it was apart infront of me.

[Driver_10]

Clearance issues, whats that?

*grumble grumble*...You and your "hood clearance"... smug bastards...
(me being spiteful since I have a 4th gen camaro)

[kwhauck]

Just dropped off materials at a machine shop for the first set of flanges to play around with......

[bszopi]

Ok, so I finally managed to go to the old house and drag my old (and very rusty ) 3100 out of the basement and up the hill, and load it onto a trailer. I also got it up on the stand this evening, so I can finally start messing around with some mock-ups. We'll see how it goes. Don't really have the $$ right now to spend on the Mustang, so might as well do some sort of car work.

I hope to be able to start putting together some articles as well, since I have an engine on a stand and will be able to take pictures, document steps, etc, and not worry about having to rush to get it back together so I can drive it.

[gar70614]

this company makes a s/c for a 2.8 s10 that almost the same as u guys were workin on. wonder if they could help.

http://www.fageolsuperchargers.com/

[bob442]

only problem is that there a bit undersized for a 3.4/3.5 L engine, as they claim there made for .5l-3l engine diplacements

[kwhauck]

only problem is that there a bit undersized for a 3.4/3.5 L engine, as they claim there made for .5l-3l engine diplacements

yes but if you use their finding the M62 is undersized but our motors, but I thought it did pretty damn good.....

Which is 62 cu in or 1.01599797 l per revolution. 76 cu liters per revolution is the largest charger they have listed. In comparison the M90 is 90 cu in or 1.47483576 cu l per revolution.

On a side note my whipple is 1.6 cu l per revolution with a case size smaller than an M62......

[DANH]

I have looked at a lot of intake designs and I do think the Ford SHO v-6 intake would be the ticket to a hp intake. here is a pic

[kwhauck]

Sure those runners look great, but where are you gonna fit the supercharger?

[bszopi]

If everything works out right, I should have a rough 3D CAD model of a lower intake this evening. From there, I can start playing around in CAD some more to develop a new lower intake.

[JerryRigg]

I have casting capabilities - I would love to see a nice S/C LIM setup for a 3x00 - it would be a fairly complex part to cast and machine but that might get it compact enough to fit with minor mods to the hood

I wish I had room for an extra motor to do mockups on