why not spend the lil extra coin for v band flanges??
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Originally posted by MidnightriderZ24 View Postwhy not spend the lil extra coin for v band flanges??2000 Grand Am GT
2011 Chevy Impala
"The world's best cam combined with a poor set of heads will produce an engine that's a dog. But bolt on a set of great heads even with a poor cam, and that engine will still make great power." ~John Lingenfelter
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Originally posted by MidnightriderZ24 View Postwhy not spend the lil extra coin for v band flanges??
They don't allow movement.
Open headers...
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Why do you guys have issues with doughnut gaskets? Do they fall out or something when you are installing them?
Do those springed ball-joints seal up really tight?
Can't wait to get my car buttoned up and running with these headers. Right now it's 90% done before I even drop the engine in...sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
Original L82 Longblock with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.
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Originally posted by IsaacHayes View PostWhy do you guys have issues with doughnut gaskets? Do they fall out or something when you are installing them?
Do those springed ball-joints seal up really tight?
Can't wait to get my car buttoned up and running with these headers. Right now it's 90% done before I even drop the engine in...
by the way will there be others potions?(like ceramic coating)Last edited by mickaz; 12-21-2009, 12:36 PM.Mike 60degree addict.
Beretta 96 3500 - 14.981@ 93.32
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How did the fan end up? Anything else gave you clearance issues? What about heater core lines, was one close to the headers?sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
Original L82 Longblock with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.
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Here's what I remember John mentioning...
-He was able to cut one fan support off to get clearance, there's still a little dent melted into the housing from where the headers hit it
-The OPSU cleared because it was on the back of the block
-Everything up front except the older fan fit perfectly
-He mentioned having to move two lines at the rear of the engine, I'm pretty sure they are the heater core lines
-OH! The transmission dipstick needed to be tweaked a little, as well.Alan
Timing belts/chains > me
1992 Beretta GT
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Heater lines just had to be removed for install, they went right back where they were.
Take your time and you can relocate the coil packs to the firewall by only extending one wire (ground wire to the ICM) we were able to make it look like they were there from the factory be opening up the loom and carefully pulling the wires through. The CPS wire was already at the back of the engine and just had to be un-clipped and brought straight up. There are already holes in the firewall close enough to use to mount them, just have to slot the holes a bit and chop the bottom mounting tab at the bottom of the ICM (bottom in the pics)...
The trans dipstick also had to be removed if you are installing these with the motor in the car, and I had to straighten the tube out a bit for it to fit. Probably could have made and extension for where it bolts to the head, but time was a time issue for this install.
Oil dipstick had to be removed, went right back in.
As Alan mentioned, cut a spoke off the fan and it's still close, but cleared.
The subframe has to be dropped, and take the motor/trans mount loose to allow you to rock everything a bit.
That's the basics, if you guys have any questions, shoot them here and will answer them to the best of my knowledge, but it was a fairly straight forward header install as header installs go.
You might have to make some field adjustments depending on the year and options, as with any custom part...Last edited by ForcedFirebird; 12-21-2009, 06:52 PM.
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Hmm. Should be able to drop them in without taking off engine mount, unless they are that different from the S&S.
Alan is lucky to get full exhaust done at the same time! He just needs a 3x00 swap and then he'll be cooking!sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
Original L82 Longblock with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.
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Oh, and as far as the ball joints leaking, I actually forgot to put the springs on Alan's set and they didn't leak one bit. The trick is to make the headers so when they bolt together, they put pressure on the joint. In fact, I almost made them TOO tight and had a little trouble getting the front header in once the rear was bolted up, so you may want to loosely bolt the rear in, then get the front lined up, then tq them both down after the ball joint has made contact.
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