Project: L-body headers

[Superdave]

It helps that i don't have A/C or a stock fan... that would be an issue for sure. I'm going to modify them over the next couple weeks to get rid of the 2 bolt flanges and the 2" crossover. It's going to be 2.25" right off the collector all the way through..

Right now the 2 bolt flanges reduce to 1 7/8" ID, i'm sure that's helping the torque but i'd be happy to lose some of it. The ceramic coating is looking pretty ugly now as well

[torq455]

those are sure tight against the engine! why wouldn't those work in a j-body?

[pmaniac69]

IMO, its looks like the rear set don't drop down at a good enough angle to pass our firewalls on a J

[torq455]

that's what i was looking at, and you are right. they look like they don't have enough down bendage to clear the firewall. lol

[Superdave]

they look pretty close to me...

I'll have mine off today, if Forced wants to send those up to Iowa i'll do a test fit

[torq455]

yeah! me too!!! I'll pay for shipping, and I get to keep em.

[gar70614]

turbo headers next? crosses fingers

[MY91GT(Z)]

man those look sweet and yes isaac im goin to keep them as im getting my motor for my car some time this wk as i did a side job to pay for it



THANK YOU FORCED FIREBIRD

[asylummotorsports]

As far as the O2 placement, I simply had the shop weld in a bung AFTER the collector, and installed my wideband there, then just plugged the hole S&S provided.

Easy to get to from underneath the car.

[3400-95-Modified]

Well the time has come, and I have been planning on making some l-body headers for a while and a couple of the members here have stepped up to the plate so this can become a reality!

MY91GT(Z) has sent me the modified headers he bought from johnnymossville.

I never said this before because I really didn't want to sound like a cock or get a rash of shit from people... But I do love it that these headers are being used to produce a set that will just FIT a L-Body straight off the shelf... BUT just remember, johnnymossville came to me and asked me how I modified the first set of S&S Headers that ever got put in a Beretta, without of course cutting the floor pan out, (like someone else did to not have to modify the headers)

I was the first one with a cut up set of S&S Headers in my daily car, and since then I made a set for Shane, And Asylum, and Shane sold that set with his 91 to Eric Wood, and then johnny modified his own set going by my pics and method, and then Barry on Bstuff modified a set of the Pacesetter headers to fit his application.

[bszopi]

Yeah, well... I was the first Beretta owner to own a set of S&S headers. So

[ForcedFirebird]

I never said this before because I really didn't want to sound like a cock or get a rash of shit from people... But I do love it that these headers are being used to produce a set that will just FIT a L-Body straight off the shelf... BUT just remember, johnnymossville came to me and asked me how I modified the first set of S&S Headers that ever got put in a Beretta, without of course cutting the floor pan out, (like someone else did to not have to modify the headers)

I was the first one with a cut up set of S&S Headers in my daily car, and since then I made a set for Shane, And Asylum, and Shane sold that set with his 91 to Eric Wood, and then johnny modified his own set going by my pics and method, and then Barry on Bstuff modified a set of the Pacesetter headers to fit his application.

Man, you're such a cock j/k

Not trying to take anything away from anyone, but I did build the l-body headers that took Loner's Corsica into the 12's

You see, I just can't grasp the idea that you guys are paying for a set of headers, then paying to have them modified (if the user doesn't have the ability/tools) when you can just buy bolt-on's from the beginning.

I have been trying for some time to get headers built for both the l and j bodies, posting on local forums and just trying to get a car here to test on and they all are a bunch of talkers with no balls.

Just like my siggy implies: Speeds costs, how fast you want to go? I even offered them to make the headers, take them off to reproduce, then put them back on and all they had to pay for was materials. Can't get much cheaper than that!

[IsaacHayes]

Jon, are the ones Asylum has not compatible with a 94-96 28mm sway bar? Or was it some other issue with the older bars? Eric says that a front sway bar won't work I ask because he is selling them...

John, I'm up for the first set... Just let me know when...

[3400-95-Modified]

I only did the rear bank and cross over angle modification to his and Eric Wood's, I did not do the collector shortening and re-angle because I did not have it in the tunnel of a car to verify the fit. I told BOTH of them this and STRONGLY suggested having an exhaust shop cut that back and re-angle it to correct it. I even provide the necessary pics.

Neither person did this and that is why Woody's header's have a really akward bend in them after the collector, AND why Eric B can't fit his swaybar in there. It's not that it won't work, its that they never completed what I could not do since I only modified them on a block.

Mine were done as I noted and I'm running a 30mm GT swaybar with NO issues.

And John, I know you did loner's but those were turbo headers, that don't count... LOL

If I was closer to ANYONE on this board who has the capabilities to copy/reproduce the headers I would be all over dropping my car off for test fitting since I have a daily driver. But since I'm way the hell up here and almost as east as you can get... I'm helpless to this, other than being able to provide the first set of modifications that had to be done to get them to fit, granted yes I had to buy a $500 set of headers and cut and re-welded them myself... At the time I didn't have the time/tools to make a fully custom set.

You see, I just can't grasp the idea that you guys are paying for a set of headers, then paying to have them modified (if the user doesn't have the ability/tools) when you can just buy bolt-on's from the beginning.

I agree 100% with this, but at the time and still to this day till you finish this set, we did not have that option... our only option was a custom fab set from local shops where no one wanted to touch them, OR build your own, and as noted many don't have the tools to do so.

The biggest issue is, the people willing to put up the money and time are NEVER located next to the guy who has the resources and desire to build what that person wants... and the only local people end up being no help.

[ForcedFirebird]

Well, they came out to be equal length. 13.5"