CAI Semi-complete

[pocket-rocket]

Stock to stock N-bodies are better though.

True, I agree completely. I know Josh used to road race his GP and he was really good with it. Maybe he will chime in with his input to how a GP can do. But yeah, stock vs stock, hands down, N-body.

[3400-95-Modified]

LOOK at my sig! 100% untouched engine with a set of headers and a good tune.

YOU are spinning your wheels my friend. I was 14.50's before the headers ON A STOCK ENGINE, full interior, even the spare and jack on 89 octane!

3050 pounds with me in it.

With all due respect I REALLY think you need to re-think this project.

Because so far it's not all that impressive.

It's still 3050 pounds and I'm short shifting it at 6K, and will run 14.1 all day long ON 93 which is probably still a waste.

Eric your comparing apples and oranges again... 3400/3500 combo with a 4t60e against a 3500 3t40... Not everyone wants to go to a 3t40, so sometimes they need to produce more brake HP to get the trans to put more to the ground.

Hell I did a 13.9 before, consistent 14.0's on street tires, but then I did my brake upgrade and now I only have 25" tires to race, so I know it will NEVER do that again, But it should be mid 14's... My 14.8's right now are largely due to my tune I know that since I'm hitting 13.7:1 A/F leaving the box... that's not good for anything.

To each his own, let him run his project the way he wants and not always be a critic about it and think you've got the best combination out there. Not everyone is building JUST a bracket car. I want low 13's and maybe 12's... but it will probably never be consistent with my spray... but that's the price I'm willing to pay.

[SofaKingWeToddDid]

i can out corner most of anything i come across in my z34. my buick too, it had quicker steering than this car does anyhow. (dont ask me why but my buick regal coup could turn tighter than my z34.) i didnt have to back up to turn around on the street outside my house, thats how i know. but if you have FE3 on ur W and good shocks, it should handle pretty good (oh and good tires) ive never really owned an N body, so i cant comment there. but i wouldnt say that Ws all handle bad. maybe with some FE1, bald tires and worn out shocks it will drive like grandmas old boat or something.

[Superdave]

you guys need to stop playing around with these heavy ass cars and get Jbodies.. My car handles like a go-cart.

[1988GTU]

That's 3.5" ... Nice! The minimal bends will be less noticeable for any possible restrictions and the heat will have a lesser chance at attacking the air flowing within the tubes.

FWD pshhhhhhhhhh RWD!!!

[95SleeperAcheiva]

I didn't take offense to assylum. Actually I'd really like to know "HOW" he got that car to 14 flats with even less mods then me. But, then again that may be what he's hiding. I've been completely open about everything I'm doing, I'll never run any of you for money so what do I care if you know? Besides, I ain't that fast yet. In my own minds eye. My Achieva is slow. VERY slow. The cars I grew up in ran 12's stock, 10's modified in 24hrs. I got time slips of a 1970 W-31 cutlass running 10.2's. So 14's is a bloody crawl.

Handling. I HAD, past tense, a 1992 Z-34 Lumina. I wasn't impressed with the handling. 1-10, 10 being a Ferrari and 1 being a panel truck, Z-34 Lumina gets a 6. For comparison, my '78 vette gets a 7, all stock. I have also had a 1996 Z-34 MC, also a 6. My Achieva when street'ed and stock, 7. Lowered and modded suspension, 8.5. Here's the kicker, 1994 4-door GP, stock, 8. I still have the '94 GP. Aaron, no offense to the GP's, I just like calling them "grand Pricks." :P
Also, I completely agree with the 3800 crowd having had the time advantage. That motor has been around since the early 50's! It was called a 232 cu. in. right? Lastly, Have you seen my brake master cylinder!? This thing is HUGE! I got the god awful ABS unit attached to the side of it. It's got to weigh 30 lbs. And if I loose the booster it moves the master back and gives me room for my ram air through the hood tubes. And more room for something else, see last paragraph.

Isaac, no I haven't swapped to the OBD 1 yet. I have the comp, 7730, but haven't installed it yet. I was afraid that something in the software was different in the stock 1.5 and giving me the performance I was receiving currently. And without being able to modify the software in the OBD 1 yet or get a full download of what the 1.5 had to compare them, I figured I'd leave it alone till I got the chip from Ben and the APU1 from moates.

And you guys got my gears turning last night. 4T65E and a control box. I like this tranny, http://www.transmissioncenter.net/alto_2.htm , I bought a 700R-4, for my vette, from them years back and loved it!
3500 swap, build the piss out of it, and boost, boost, boost. Now I was playing around with those calculators robistar told me about, and had to spend some time reading up at garrett, but from what I'm seeing, I need a turbo that can push 1200+ CFM at 40 lbs of boost to put her into the 9's.

Now I'm a 4-door Achieva, so I got the wheel base. As long as I don't pull my control arms out of my sub-frames, I think it'll do it.

I kinda wanted to see how much I could get N/A, But when I thought about it, it would have been a nice goal if I could have the time and money to do more every week, over 1 season, and be done. I don't have that luxury. And when you come down to it, I really just want to go FAST! IDC how I do it, just as long as I do it. So, 2nd job, and turbo, here we come.

Give me credit, at least I'm staying 60 degree. I could just cheat and SC my 4.0L Aurora motor, drop that in there with a shoe horn, and bang 1200 ponies! :P Granted the trannies won't live long but....

[robertisaar]

robistar

as long as the tranny controller will work the pressure control solenoid as well, then that may be a better route to go... or using a 4t80e.... and with these goals, posi is a must...

[95SleeperAcheiva]

hey you all seen me english! be grapful you can understand anyting i type[?

Would you believe I was an Honors English major in college?

[IsaacHayes]

FE3? I grew out of that and my Z51 setup.

Ebiach, KYB, 1" rear Addco, poly FTW!

[pocket-rocket]

you guys need to stop playing around with these heavy ass cars and get Jbodies.. My car handles like a go-cart.

I'm actually wanting to kill 2 birds with 1 stone and get a Chevette.

[AaronGTR]

i can out corner most of anything i come across in my z34. my buick too, it had quicker steering than this car does anyhow. (dont ask me why but my buick regal coup could turn tighter than my z34.) i didnt have to back up to turn around on the street outside my house, thats how i know. but if you have FE3 on ur W and good shocks, it should handle pretty good (oh and good tires) ive never really owned an N body, so i cant comment there. but i wouldnt say that Ws all handle bad. maybe with some FE1, bald tires and worn out shocks it will drive like grandmas old boat or something.

My DD is a 97 GPGT sedan. I've redone the entire suspension. Stock springs, new KYB GR2's, new oe front sway bar w/poly center bushings, upgraded speedbuilt rear sway bar with poly bushings, and new front control arm bushings. Also new yokohama avid tires. Brakes are new brembo oe rotors and hawk performance ceramic pads, goodridge lines, and new dot4 fluid.

My grand am still handled and stopped better stock. Now it will really rip it up. Eibach springs, KYB GR2's, next level front/rear sway bars w/poly bushings and front/rear STB's, full poly control arm bushing kit front and rear, 13" Baer track kit brakes on front and rear powerslot rotors with ebc pads and braided lines and motul rbf600 fluid.


Anyway, didn't mean to steal the thread! I'm still interested in seeing the results of the mods he does, even if we don't think they'll work they way he wants. Every car is different and there's an large number of ways to modify and tune them so who knows how his will turn out?

[Superdave]

I'm actually wanting to kill 2 birds with 1 stone and get a Chevette.

There you go.. anything in a Chevette is fast.

[pocket-rocket]

There you go.. anything in a Chevette is fast.

And its RWD

[torq455]

hey you all seen me english! Be grapful you can understand anyting i type[?

Would you believe i was an honors english major in college?

OMFG! ROFLMAO!!!

[asylummotorsports]

Wow!

I am hiding absolutely nothing and I am more than willing to share anything I know or have with anyone else.

At a recent Beretta Meet im Albany NY I lent my drag radials to someone to try and beat my best N/A time. ( I sponsored the trophies and didn't want to win my own stuff back)

Everything on my car is open and above board..

Absolutely 100% untouched '05 3500 from a Malibu.

3t40 with 3.73 FDR and EP LSD.

S&S Alero headers modified by Jon (3400-modified)

225-50-15 BFG Drag radials on crosslaced wheels.

The trans is bullet-proof and the OBD-1 tune is by Rodney, and it just keeps getting quicker/faster.

I certainly meant NO DISRESPECT and apologize if I did.

I'm sorry.