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  • #16
    Dang, wish I had known you were looking for intake parts. I have several 3" and 3.5" pieces of piping along with silicone couplers and t-bolt clamps left over from my project I am trying to get rid of... oh well.

    So is that 110 octane leaded or unleaded? I thought the highest unleaded you could find was 104? If it is leaded but it's only 4-5 gallons, you could mix that in with a tank or two of unleaded high octane and dilute it. It's still not good for you O2 sensor or you cat, but a few gallons diluted won't kill them immediately. You'd have to run a couple tanks of straight leaded to totally junk them. You will pick up a few octane points that way, but like everyone already said, it's probably not going to do you any good. If you are going to play with fuel octane and ignition timing, you really need to do it on a dyno where you can see the point of diminishing returns.
    '97 Grand Prix GT 3800 (sold)
    '00 Grand Am GT 3400 supercharged
    13.788 @ 103.73 mph, 320whp 300 ft/lbs
    Gotta love boost!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Superdave View Post
      Just because you can run more advance w/o picking up knock doesn't mean you should.. Just a few degrees too much can cause a drastic power loss. Anything over 28 degrees @ WOT and mine is unhappy.
      I'll have to take that into consideration... I've been touching 30* advance on my car and I'm starting to wonder if that's too much.

      Got Lope?
      3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
      Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
      Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
      12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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      • #18
        Aaron! figures! no worries, I'll be needing more soon. Especially the T=bolt clamps, aero seals aint cuttin it. Round up what 3.5" you got and let me know.
        sigpicHow to make High performance Emissions:
        A "true" High flow converter, straight pipe.
        Low/No flow EGR valve, block off plate.
        Carbon canister and purge valve mod, place in large 30 Gallon can, cover, and place curbside, the city will do the rest.
        PCV valve and vent tube, reroute to exhaust to dump where it belongs, on the ground. Or add breathers and let it all free.

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        • #19
          VP is the way to go (for boost!) !

          But likely you will not need that 110 with what you have. You dont have 100, 101, 104 (all those are unleaded by me) ?? Those would have been a better fuel to use and not kill o2's.
          Lifting my front wheels, one jack at a time.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
            I'll have to take that into consideration... I've been touching 30* advance on my car and I'm starting to wonder if that's too much.

            Could be, i run all my 3400 tunes at 24-28 in the WOT cells, i've only had 1 show knock. it can also depend on how rich your tune is at WOT.
            Past Builds;
            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
            Current Project;
            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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            • #21
              what do you have done to your engine to require the use of 110 octane.

              from the looks of your garage here all you have is a stock 3400 a 3500 uim and a 75mm tb and a redneck exhaust setup.
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              99 Grand Am GT
              3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
              Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
              1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur
              515 515 lift 112 lsa
              15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come


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              • #22
                If you need some more 3.5" pipe just let me know.. i bought a 4' stick and i'm only going to use about 12" of it.. lol


                I did buy steel though, that way i can use it for more than just intakes...
                Past Builds;
                1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                Current Project;
                1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                • #23
                  ebay charge pipe kits work great for cheap intakes! but asylum has found out short WAIs seem to be faster at the track

                  btw what kind of times are you getting??
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                  88 Beretta CL- 13.641@102.76mph (rwd LS1/t56 conversion in progress)

                  77 Celica GT- 3400/3500 swap in progress (engine from the beretta)

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                  • #24
                    best time ever was a 14.56. I seem to run consistent 14.70's. I'm posted on the time board here. By posted times, the 11th fastest car. About 5 up from geldartb. :P

                    I got the 110 because i couldn't get the 100 or 104 local. I was trying to make sure stupid little things like 3 year old gas wasn't what was slowing me down. and the 110 (Marathon) is unleaded, i found that out today.

                    Here's my fear. I fear dropping $4500 into this motor, going to the track and pulling a low 15. I've improved this car alot with what I've done and all for under a grand so far. I did most of it by hand on a tight budget. Lots of P&P work. The whole time I was grinding away thinking, "god my hands hurt, god this is taking forever, god I hope I don't grind though to the other side and have to start all over again, god i hope i don't grind too much and slow her down more, what the hell am I doing anyway!?" It was a learning experience. I can't fathom how someone could stand there for hours on end as a job to P&P. I don't have that kind of patience.

                    So next year with the rest of my completion in work, it better see 13's, and damn close to 12's, or she's going to have a date with about 8 ounces of C4 and 12 ounces of magnesium.
                    Last edited by 95SleeperAcheiva; 09-02-2009, 01:31 PM.
                    sigpicHow to make High performance Emissions:
                    A "true" High flow converter, straight pipe.
                    Low/No flow EGR valve, block off plate.
                    Carbon canister and purge valve mod, place in large 30 Gallon can, cover, and place curbside, the city will do the rest.
                    PCV valve and vent tube, reroute to exhaust to dump where it belongs, on the ground. Or add breathers and let it all free.

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                    • #25
                      It was a learning experience. I can't fathom how someone could stand there for hours on end as a job to P&P. I don't have that kind of patience.
                      It definitely is a learning experience, and you can definitely mess up and make it slower if you don't know what you are doing. The people who do a lot of porting work though, they have better tools that let them do it faster. It's all about the right tools for the job!

                      So next year with the rest of my completion in work, it better see 13's, and damn close to 12's, or she's going to have a date with about 8 ounces of C4 and 12 ounces of magnesium.
                      So umm... what all do you have planned for it in that case? It takes a heck of a lot more engine work than you have to get a 3400 into the 13's without boost. Either you have big plans, or you're not being realistic?
                      '97 Grand Prix GT 3800 (sold)
                      '00 Grand Am GT 3400 supercharged
                      13.788 @ 103.73 mph, 320whp 300 ft/lbs
                      Gotta love boost!

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                      • #26
                        trans work/rebuild, better clutches, shift correction kit, shim accumulators, haven't decided yet on whether I'm going to shift manually or try to program the comp to do it. something for posi! ECU upgrade, and software obviously. Whole new valve train, cam, etc... 3500 heads, P&P ( no offensive ben but I'm broke so I'll have to do it myself.) I will probably have Ben re-valve and spring it tho. Considering bigger valve but that is a MAJOR expense. Pistons, haven't decided on compression ratio yet, I'll figure that when I'm working the valve train and see if I need to cut reliefs or not. Again if I had money I'd lengthen the rod and shorten the piston, but that would be all custom and that I really can't afford! Balance lower end, shot-peen and polish rods, maybe knife crank if i got some extra money. I would love to get it all frozen dipped but idk how much that would cost and i foresee me struggling financially anyway. (story of my life) bump up to 15" rims on the front, slicks, air-bag the rear suspension (thank you Mars), lots of prayers and daily threats to the car with large caliber weapons to break into the 12's.

                        if after all that, I still can't get it. I'll boost it. Prob turbo. But if I boost, I want single digits! I will get 9's if I have to boost it. But then again, its what i can afford.
                        sigpicHow to make High performance Emissions:
                        A "true" High flow converter, straight pipe.
                        Low/No flow EGR valve, block off plate.
                        Carbon canister and purge valve mod, place in large 30 Gallon can, cover, and place curbside, the city will do the rest.
                        PCV valve and vent tube, reroute to exhaust to dump where it belongs, on the ground. Or add breathers and let it all free.

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                        • #27
                          9s with FWD is tough....

                          *cough* tube frame *cough*
                          1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                          Latest nAst1 files here!
                          Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                          • #28
                            Hey we've all seen the youtube vid of that "grand prick" doing a 9.01 sec pass, he aint tube framed, and he's a W-body, much heavier. I think we should be able to get a 3400/3500/3900 into the 9's.

                            Also I forgot, winter mods include, full manual brake set-up (2-line system), line-locks, manual steering conversion, electric water pump, timing cover mod for it, and relocation of alt, maybe tube-headers too, of my own "REDNECK" design dumping out the sides again. I even got compliments on my "REDNECK" exhaust.
                            Several people thought I bought it from pacesetter or something.
                            sigpicHow to make High performance Emissions:
                            A "true" High flow converter, straight pipe.
                            Low/No flow EGR valve, block off plate.
                            Carbon canister and purge valve mod, place in large 30 Gallon can, cover, and place curbside, the city will do the rest.
                            PCV valve and vent tube, reroute to exhaust to dump where it belongs, on the ground. Or add breathers and let it all free.

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                            • #29
                              possible? yes, but much more effort/time/money required than making it RWD... or hell even AWD, get some Syclone/Typhoon Version 2 action going on with a heavily boosted 3900...
                              1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                              Latest nAst1 files here!
                              Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by 95SleeperAcheiva View Post
                                best time ever was a 14.56. I seem to run consistent 14.70's. I'm posted on the time board here. By posted times, the 11th fastest car. About 5 up from geldartb. :P
                                and you have a gutted interior and your car weighs 500lbs less than mine and i drive mine to and from the track.

                                that 15.2 was with some bullshit tune from milzy. now if i had gutted the shit out of the interior it would have been mid 14's.

                                put that 500lbs back in your car and youll be right at the same time i pulled with a stock drivetrain.
                                sigpic
                                99 Grand Am GT
                                3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
                                Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
                                1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur
                                515 515 lift 112 lsa
                                15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come


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