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  • #16
    Originally posted by robertisaar View Post
    according to corky bell, every 90* of turning loses 1% of the flow.... more with sharper bends, but that start stacking up quickly....
    Being an author of a turbocharging book I trust that calculation... Some say it was 30%, but that sounds awfully steep to me. My only other issue is where the cone filter ends up... I don't want it in a spot in the bumper where there is negative air pressure because then never mind just the bend losses... now your working harder to even find air.

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    3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
    Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
    Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
    12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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    • #17
      with four 90* bends, you'd be at -20% flow... wow.

      page 62 of maximum boost if anyone wants proof
      1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
      Latest nAst1 files here!
      Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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      • #18
        CAI's and WAI's are overrated..


        SAI's are where it's at: http://www.3500z.com/60degree/Intake%20Stuff/SAI.jpg



        BTW, my CAI only had 1 bend in it and consistantly performed better than my WAI while sitting in the staging lanes and while moving.
        Past Builds;
        1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
        1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
        Current Project;
        1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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        • #19
          for the life of me, i cannot figure out what the S would be...

          and does the tube stick out beyond the back of the light bucket?
          1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
          Latest nAst1 files here!
          Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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          • #20
            headlight funnel directly into the 3.5" intake pipe.. track use only

            Small Animal Intake :P
            Past Builds;
            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
            Current Project;
            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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            • #21
              i'm blind, so that makes sense...

              SAI... i'll have to remember that...
              1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
              Latest nAst1 files here!
              Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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              • #22
                as soon as i can find the clips to hold the headlight together i'm going to cut the front out and epoxy some metal mesh across it.

                that would suck if a bird got in there.. bugs i'm ok with though.
                Past Builds;
                1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                Current Project;
                1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Superdave View Post
                  that would suck if a bird got in there.. bugs i'm ok with though.
                  but seagull-devouring 660s are awesome...
                  1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                  Latest nAst1 files here!
                  Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                  • #24
                    It's not the motor that did it but I did gut a bird on the grill of my beretta... face planted right on the Chevy emblem, and his stomach and intestine ended up in my safety latch depression on my header pannel... It was gross, but damn I got some good close up shots of it! LMAO...

                    SAI I love it! If I had a better way to run a CAI I would but I just don't know where to direct it, first things first, the battery has got to go soon...

                    The only route I can make is two 90* bends and at least one 45* bend, but that puts my filter only to the left front corner of the bumper, behind my washer tank, and open to air that goes through the radiator first... there isn't really a direct shot of air into that compartment, that's the big kicker about my setup.
                    Last edited by 3400-95-Modified; 08-28-2009, 09:08 AM.

                    Got Lope?
                    3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
                    Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
                    Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
                    12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                    • #25
                      Loss of power would be 2.5" from each manifold.

                      Keep that 2" and you will be fine. Maybe even 2.25" would be ok, but 2.5" for the whole motor is best, and you have that on each bank..........
                      sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                      1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                      16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                      Original L82 Longblock
                      with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                      Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                      • #26
                        my CAI sat in the cavity under the battery tray with a shield from the engine side. The air inlet to the cavity was the mouth of the front bumper.


                        I pulled out the filter last night, after a year of spotty driving it was still clean. No water marks, mud or bugs.
                        Past Builds;
                        1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                        1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                        Current Project;
                        1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                        • #27
                          Too late, I already made them. Besides the output from the front manifold is only 1.75. I stepped up the pipe just for looks about 4" from the manifold. But your right.

                          Originally I was running the 1/4 in 15 flat with full exhaust. I dumped the exhaust and went with a 2.5" straight pipe that ran to the gas tank, about 4 foot long. I went faster 14.50's. I was trying to "tune" the pipe the old fashioned way. Spray a paint line down the side and cut where the paint stops burning off.
                          Funny thing is, the paint never burned.....ANYWHERE! and it was normal paint, not engine enamel. So I pulled it, the whole pipe. Damn if I didn't run 14.70's from then on out. But then I saw a post where someone stated about figuring your exhaust size...and a guy named smokey..... ya something. Anyway, I figured when I went with the larger intake and TB I would compensate for the open exhaust. Well thats my theory anyway. We'll see. I'm going to try for the track Tuesday. I want 13's before the end of the year. Oh, I'm also going to put some good gas in her. The varnish smelling 3 year old stuff is finally almost gone. yes, this is how tight I am, I have yet to put good gas in her!
                          sigpicHow to make High performance Emissions:
                          A "true" High flow converter, straight pipe.
                          Low/No flow EGR valve, block off plate.
                          Carbon canister and purge valve mod, place in large 30 Gallon can, cover, and place curbside, the city will do the rest.
                          PCV valve and vent tube, reroute to exhaust to dump where it belongs, on the ground. Or add breathers and let it all free.

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                          • #28
                            smokey yunick?

                            that guy is a legend
                            1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                            Latest nAst1 files here!
                            Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                            • #29
                              ya him. IDK, I'm more of a Doc Watson fan.
                              sigpicHow to make High performance Emissions:
                              A "true" High flow converter, straight pipe.
                              Low/No flow EGR valve, block off plate.
                              Carbon canister and purge valve mod, place in large 30 Gallon can, cover, and place curbside, the city will do the rest.
                              PCV valve and vent tube, reroute to exhaust to dump where it belongs, on the ground. Or add breathers and let it all free.

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                              • #30
                                Doc Watson didn't know speed.

                                '97 Chevy Lumina, '99 LA1, ported heads, manifolds, 2 1/2" exhaust, k&n filter, 180* stat, A/C delete, Ram air, 3600 FAFB converter, 4T60E shift kit, DHP Power Tuner, AEM UEGO, MegaSquirt II/Extra

                                1/8 mile 9.72@75 mph, 2.0 60 foot


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