all high performance under 1 roof!

[Firehawk94]

Good stuff.. this is the kind of thread i like to read with my breakfast burrito and coffee in the morning.

Me: Mcdonalds Sausage egg and cheese with hashbrown and a coke

[carbon]

I bet the SC kit will cost more than many people paid for their car in the first place.

So true... this is the same problem vendors have with the Fiero community. There are a few who go nuts on mods, but most just like to chat and have a good time and keep 'em running.

just because you do not know how a 3 bar MAP sensor figures in to dealing with the fuel issue in the stage 1 kit does not mean there is no answer only that you do not know the answer. As it has been explained to me there is more than 1 way to deal with fuel pressure and currently it is believed that computer adjustments will fix it. if not I'm sure the developers find a way to deal with it.

Uhhh... yeah.

[kflo 93 gt]

I woke up to this myself, provided a good chuckle with the mornings bowl of breakfast.

To Bob, if you're real then you have to show us something. It really is the same old song and dance otherwise, and it is something that happens daily on every American car forum. It is especially tough in this community because you are at Mecca for these engines as far as the net is concerned.

To come here and bring promises without 1 piece of solid, numbers or photo backed evidence is weak game in a place that plays tough. And to quit at such an early stage shows the true lack of anything going on. If you'd put something behind it you guys would be trying to sell it and giving us reasons to buy it.

You can win all of us over by showing us something, until then... welcome to the non-bullshitter world, bob.

[sprucegagt]

My thoughts on this thread.

[bobgagt1.0]

http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.com/

Bob at rpm @ gmail dot com

I see a Bob listed under extended sales force. That wouldn't be you would it?

ROFLMAO! WOW! you don't have much else to do, do you? sorry but I am NOT an employee of any supercharger manufacturer. Bob or more accurately Robert, my given name and the name where the nick name bob comes from has been 1 of the top ten names given to newborn baby boys for the last 50 years or so. so the odds of you finding a bob in a performance related company are pretty good. and all that effort you put in tells me you disregarded common sense because although i am still technically a newbie I was a member here longer than most companies would allow an employee to be if they were just working an advertising angle. I would think the cost and strain on a small company's advertising team would be too much to be worth it.

to kflo 93 gt There is nothing to show yet because it's still in R+D. this was posted to test the waters but it is real. would I put this much time in defending it if it wasn't? no I would just find another forum and move on. that's all I can say because there is nothing more to say, I can't pull a SC kit out from between my butt cheeks and say TA-DA! I don't think I have promised anything beyond stating that when this happens it will be great. If i made any other promises feel free to point them out to me

Mecca? the faithful don't get treated like this at Mecca.

To carbon- prices will be figured out but I think it's safe to say that they will start at a lower price point that expected by anyone in the forums. look at what is included. the tuner kit is as basic as it could possibly get then look at RSM's crappy setup (it is pretty weak look at where they put the M.A.F. that is why people are having problems with it.) this company's tuner kit almost has to come in at a lower price even with higher quality parts since it is so bare bones and planned for people that want to do it themselves.

firehawk94 - thank you for giving the benefit of the doubt your words are by far the most positive I have received here.

sappy - I don't know what you're trying to do, this forum is by far the most negative about what I have posted so posting links to my threads at other forums really won't prove your point, if anything it proves mine. this is the second thing you have done that tells me you do not think things through too well before you do them. so keep doing it, you will only help me in the end.

bszopi - you are just a miserable person. you have to be to be so negative. in everything you have posted in response to any comment I have ever made in any thread you have been negative.there is no way but your way, no room for independent thought, no possibility you could be wrong, no possibility some one else may have a valid point unless it is in agreement with you. and god forbid someone actually voice that opinion because the only way you know to respond involves you doing everything possible to tear that person down so you can feel better about not having had that idea yourself first.
you tried to destroy any possibility that this project would see the light of day by attributing to me comments that were said by someone else in passing. it didn't work but who would have paid the price so you could feel better about yourself? not just me but every person that would have been interested in buying one of these proposed packages only they wouldn't have known it because it would have been chalked up to just another set of failed promises and lies while you sit there stroking your immature, easily bruised ego.

I find it interesting that the people that are trying to trash me and this thread the hardest are the people responsible for maintaining the integrity of this forum. Others say show me the proof, which will come in due time. this is a forum that says it doesn't have sponsors but as soon as someone comes along with positive news about a new guy entering this sector of the performance community the powers that be start trying to tear him down, even going so far as to do things a decent person would no consider in an effort to not only discredit the person responsible for the post but to destroy the possibility of the project ever seeing the light of day.Why would someone spend their time searching the internet that I am an officer of a corporation trying to spam the forum, then mention it in the thread in an effort to discredit instead of just using that information to delete the thread and ban the user. why could that be Hmmm? maybe because none of that stops the project from being successful the way discrediting can?

so go ahead, do what you want, say what you want, it doesn't matter what i say anyway because you will find ways to try and discredit me and this project. Me? I will just document the project and post the pics and the 1/4 mile info for each stage of development as they are done and wait for the founding members of this forum to try and trash it then.

[SappySE107]

Trying to trash you? You make it too easy. Your go to guy says the TGP blocks broke. Then you say he was thinking about the gen 1 not gen 3, but TGP is gen 2. No mention of fuel upgrades for the first 2 levels. Incorrect methods to adjusting fuel pressure and fuel output. What do we need to say to discredit you? Quoting you made you cry enough as it was.

btw, I spent 5 minutes looking up RPM, since your email says bobatrpm@gmail. ECS does everything you claim your buddy does, and they are east coast in jersey.

Have fun doing whatever it is you are doing, but please do it elsewhere. I am sure if this company you speak of is legit (and if it is ECS, I already have confirmation that they are reputable), we will find out when they are ready. No company needs someone like you representing them, anywhere.

[bobgagt1.0]

keep fishing sappyboy

[95SleeperAcheiva]

Bob, we are a different breed then you and your kind. We are brand loyal due to quality. And not spoken quality in a biased magazine like "Yuppie Reports" (Consumer Reports). Word of mouth from fellow hobbyist's. What we can actually feel and see. The smart ones of us NEVER take anyone's word for it without seeing, holding, reading charts, as to it's/whats abilities.

This isn't an intentional bash.

There are 3 kinds of car people.

1) The guy that isn't a mechanic of any sort, throws money into them to look good or go "fast" as he thinks it is, and thinks the more money he spends the faster it must go. He also doesn't bother with learning how anything works and the worst part is he THINKS he knows. This is the guy at car shows and drag meets with a sweet car he knows nothing about and bought it that way. Your typical white collar, yuppie.

2) Again, another guy that isn't a mechanic but is at least willing to learn how things work even if he doesn't get his hands dirty. He keeps his eyes and ears open, he understands enough to hold an intelligent conversation. He may pay someone else to build his machine but at least he knows exactly what he wants, why he wants it, and how it works.

3) The full mechanic. This guy learns everything. He dives into it. If he doesn't know how it works he breaks his mind to find out. He considers it a personal insult to having someone else work on his car for anything!

I've seen type 1's get laughed out of car shows.
Type 2 is at least respected by type 3.

Type 1 people tend to be the PC correct morons that don't have a clue as to how the world works, whats happening in it except in their little neighbor hood, and is most of the major fall and decline of American life today. i.e. seat belt laws, gun control, political correctness, helmet laws, lack of restriction on privacy and restriction of freedom, above all the same twits that think terrorists should have rights.

Your leaning hard to a type 1.

It comes down to a very simple line and very old sang...

"Put up or shut-up"

Not to be blunt. But, you would earn the respect you think you deserve by doing that rather then trying to defend yourself.

Here's why, have you noticed 60 degree doesn't sell "high-flow converters?"
That because they don't exist. It's all hype, BS, what-ever you wish to call it.

Now if you know anything about cars, or wish too, you'll know or learn that a converter is a small blast furnace in a way. This furnace, in order to do it's job and "cooking and burning" the pollutants down, has to have pressure to work with the exhaust heat, there-by increasing the heat and breaking the molecular chain down to what will pass emissions. The EGR, (exhaust gas recirculation valve) which is hooked up the exhaust in front of the converter, requires 3-5 PSI of back pressure in order to work correctly. A catalytic converter MUST have 3-5 PSI for the system to work, period. So if you put on a "high-flow" converter that means your reducing your back pressure, reducing the pressure need to "cook", and there-fore NOT doing the emissions breakdown required. I've had manufacturers directly tell me a High-flow converter is nothing more then a shiny case.
Now if you read that, had it sink in, tried to understand it, actually cared enough to pay attention to what I wrote, then there is hope for you.

If not, you are a hard core Type 1 and you need to go away.

[bszopi]

RSM's crappy setup (it is pretty weak look at where they put the M.A.F. that is why people are having problems with it.)

Really? So you think the problem with RSM's kit is the location of the MAF sensor?? REALLY!?!? Or is this what the guy building these new kits told you? Either way, it shows lack of knowledge and/or pure ignorance.

Just keep digging your hole deeper. And you may think I'm a miserable asshole, and there are others out there that think the same. Then there is the majority of people who trust and respect what I say, on here and on many other forums.

[60dgrzbelow0]

Jesus Palomino, Achieva... I just got Goose Bumps from your last...and I'm not even using the iron you Third Gen folks are using...THAT was a serious dressing down!

Hey Bob... Lets get practical here... How about some short videos of say... a walk through in your R&D department...? Or maybe even some bench mock-up images of the S/C and related HW? (Hell you can even PS out the really 'scary new designs' if you'd like to protect the R&D boys from fainting like school girls at the thought of it getting out...Hell...maybe even give those who are in the know on this forum a chance to actually SEE what you are saying exists) Or hey...How about letting as see the stuff bolted into/onto a REAL car, you know...going down the track...or pulling wheelies in the R&D shop's driveway? We're all very curious as to what your 'mystery machinery' looks like and how it performs...even a RWD F-Body V-6 Monkey like me...LOL... Oh...and as for Ben...'being mean' to you... That is load of steaming manure...If you want REAL abuse for no reason at all (and a permanent, lifetime ban for just looking cross-eyed at the forum Admins/Mods) you have to look up guys named "Grimm" or "Used2Sing" for crap like that on another V6 forum.

So do yourself a favor...take your medicine like a man... tuck in your sales and marketing skirts, then wash the dried tears off your face and pay attention to their sound advice... Write down everything they tell you...study it carefully...and then...STFU... until you have what everyone wants and come back and show that it really werx!

[bobgagt1.0]

LOL if you knew me you would know I am in no way your type 1. and I already did know the basics of what you said but if I remember correctly,on my car the EGR connects to the UIM. I could be wrong if there are 2 devices on a car that start with "exhaust Gas Recirculation" - say one is a valve and another is a pump for example or perhaps your car is different. but the EGR is supposed to recirculate exhaust gas into the engine to be further broken down in the combustion chamber that can only happen as far as i know if the EGR is mounted to the engine somewhere.

Did I pass your test? if not , oh well I am not a mechanic but I do learn about what I am interested in and I am interested in my car which is why I joined this forum in the first place. not to get torn apart and tracked all over the internet by a couple of people with questionable motives looking to make me look stupid. all I wanted to do was share some good news with the forum. it is preliminary news certain people do not want to be mentioned yet and if people don't want to believe it then fine so be it but to publicly trash me and stalk me around the internet for not naming names is wrong to put it politely if these same people did comparable activities to me offline in the real world I could have them arrested yet these people are allowed to not only participate in a forum like this they are encouraged by others that find this type of behavior entertaining. In the future I know not to share anything really important on this forum because most minds here are closed and will only open when a giant banner screamming "next big thing" goes by with billboard sized photos of 1/4 mile stats and smoking tires

[60dgrzbelow0]

Okay...okay... Now I'm as much of a Gabby M*F* as the next enthusiast here... But I have to say that its high time for you to take off that Tin Foil Hat....put down the mouse...and slide off of that chair...and back away...verrrrrry slowly...

[SappySE107]

The only person with questionable motives is you, spamming internet sites. Forum regular...you joined GMPT just to post this same exact thread. You joined classicolds to do the same.

Your idea of EGR is close. The EGR pump is called the engine. The reason it puts a % of exhaust gas back into the engine is not to further break it down. The purpose is to cool the combustion process and reduce NOx emissions.

RSM didn't use a MAF. I guess putting the MAF in the trash is a bad location for it, but most people would say that the one of the problems with the RSM supercharger was the lack of MAF, not the placement of the MAF.

I look forward to what the company does. I am done with the spambot they sent out.