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  • 3400 sfi max HP?

    I was wondering... what is the max HP that has been coaxed out of a 3400sfi? I'm interested in both street legal and race HP

  • #2
    people push them to 300 crank HP all the time with no problem...
    1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
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    • #3
      8000hp
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      1994 Oldsmobile Cultass Supreme SL
      3400/Getrag 284 5spd
      1995 Chevy K1500 350c.i. 5spd Z71
      350/NV3500 5spd
      2014 Chevrolet Malibu LS

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      • #4
        depends on the setup, but i've seen 400+ out of a boosted 3400. I'd imagine with some upgraded internals 600-800 wouldn't be a problem. You'll likely run into transmission problems before engine problems.
        Past Builds;
        1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
        1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
        Current Project;
        1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 19Cutlass94 View Post
          8000hp
          i forgot we were dealing with top fuel engines

          and X2 for superdave, tranny will likely give out before the engine does...
          1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
          Latest nAst1 files here!
          Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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          • #6


            Youll end up spending almost as much on the transmission to hold the power, as you will making it.
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            1994 Oldsmobile Cultass Supreme SL
            3400/Getrag 284 5spd
            1995 Chevy K1500 350c.i. 5spd Z71
            350/NV3500 5spd
            2014 Chevrolet Malibu LS

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            • #7
              you could probably build a 700R4 to take the power.. for a FWD app the HM284 should handle 400-600 depending on the torque, RPM range and driving style.
              Past Builds;
              1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
              1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
              Current Project;
              1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Superdave View Post
                depends on the setup, but i've seen 400+ out of a boosted 3400. I'd imagine with some upgraded internals 600-800 wouldn't be a problem. You'll likely run into transmission problems before engine problems.
                definitely would have tranny issues before I got the engine to 600-800 hp.
                I 'm just wondering what would be involved in getting the 3400sfi in my GA up to it's maximum street legal potential. this has been difficult to find out since it seems like no one has really tried to do this. so to get it up that high I would need to rebuilt the whole engine right? rods, pistons, ported/polished heads/ uim/lim, TB,... anything I'm missing?

                I'm thinking that once I find the cash I would rebuild a 3400sfi and a 5 speed to install in my 2000 GA if the final HP would turn heads and make people say "he got how much HP out of THAT motor?!?"

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                • #9
                  i think if you're looking to push 600-800HP out of a grand am, you might as well have a tube frame made for it, and hook a T56 or TR6060 up to it.... a lot less likely to blow the tranny to hell that way...
                  1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                  Latest nAst1 files here!
                  Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bobgagt1.0 View Post
                    I 'm just wondering what would be involved in getting the 3400sfi in my GA up to it's maximum street legal potential. this has been difficult to find out since it seems like no one has really tried to do this. so to get it up that high I would need to rebuilt the whole engine right? rods, pistons, ported/polished heads/ uim/lim, TB,... anything I'm missing?
                    Cam and forced induction?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bobgagt1.0 View Post
                      definitely would have tranny issues before I got the engine to 600-800 hp.
                      I 'm just wondering what would be involved in getting the 3400sfi in my GA up to it's maximum street legal potential. this has been difficult to find out since it seems like no one has really tried to do this. so to get it up that high I would need to rebuilt the whole engine right? rods, pistons, ported/polished heads/ uim/lim, TB,... anything I'm missing?

                      I'm thinking that once I find the cash I would rebuild a 3400sfi and a 5 speed to install in my 2000 GA if the final HP would turn heads and make people say "he got how much HP out of THAT motor?!?"
                      your trans won't hold up so yah.. you'll need to put in a 5 speed or sink alot into the current auto. the HM282 is fairly common and will hold 400 HP easy. They are found in early 90's/late 80's V6 Cavaliers and Berettas.

                      Since you are talking about swapping engines anyways.. I'd start off with a 3500 from a '04-06 malibu (or a few other cars). then boost or build that
                      Past Builds;
                      1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                      1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                      Current Project;
                      1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 19Cutlass94 View Post
                        8000hp
                        over 9000!!!!




                        sorry had to
                        92 LeBaron Convert: Does it run yet? 03 Silverado 2500HD ecsb 4x4 6.0L: dual 3" in/out race "muffler" 2005 Ford Taurus SE 3.0: DD from california

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 01GPGT View Post
                          over 9000!!!!




                          sorry had to
                          LOL .... okay, come on now, i'm being serious

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                          • #14
                            Asking that question is like asking how much power a small block will make and still be street legal/drivable. It is really up to your budget, skill and imagination.

                            How much money do you have? Because if you say you want to make 400 horsepower on $2000 well thats not going to happen because that will hardly cover a rebuild. You say you have $10,000 to burn well now were talking and really you can make as much power as your willing to risk. And by that I mean the block, no one really knows what the engine can take since no one has ever been able to break one. Now that 3500 forged cranks are out I don't think the crank is a concern like the old cast ones were. And even they have never been broken.

                            In the popular world of small blocks everyone knows the limit. Up to 400hp and stock 2 bolt mains are fine. More than that and you want factory 4 bolts mains. Start creeping up on 600hp and billet main caps become necessary and so does a bow tie block. What can you do with a 660? Well who really knows. So if you want to be safe and actually build something you can drive then stay around the same power that other have proven to be reliable. If you want to get fancy and have the cash to do it than be our guest. I am sure all of use are dying to know what could be!
                            1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
                            1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
                            Because... I am, CANADIAN

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                            • #15
                              Dumb online HP calculator for my car :

                              Your Crapalier weighs about 2900 pounds and can run the 1/4 mile in about 12.10 seconds. This computes to about 323.54 HP at the wheels, and about 420.60 HP at the flywheel.
                              That kind of power (400 or so) can be had on a 3400 ALL DAY LONG. I beat the hell out of my car and besides trannies, it always comes back for more. Stock crank, rods, pistons, ect. Only mod I have is a cam, GM graphite head gaskets and LS6 springs. rest of the motor = stock.

                              I would say on a good tune, you could get a 3400 to 500 crank HP and be reliable.

                              Trans is easy though, look at the L67 4T65E-HD or whatever it is, they can be built to handle some power.

                              H282's well, I have had some issues with them and only get about 1.5 seasons out of them. (Hard drag racing use, and I drive it like an arsehole) I am just putting in trans #5 now...

                              But the V6's are damn strong IMHO.
                              11.92 @ 122 MPH 3400 91 Cavalier Z24 Intercooled S/C. -totalled-
                              10.56 @ 130 MPH 3900 LZ9 87 IROC Z28 Intercooled GT4088 Turbo

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