i know about the lt1/ls1 spring swap into the 60degree lifters, but ive got lots of spare lifters layin around, what about doubling up on the stock springs?
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turbo 3400: 358whp and 365tq at 9 psi
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after everything you've got done to this motor, you wanna cheap out now, instead of buying a set of LT/LS lifters to take parts from? you can geta used set of lifters on ebay for like 40 bucks :P i just missed a set, 87k miles, they sold for 35 shipped that also included the cam, pushrods, and guide, too.
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Originally posted by gectek View Posttake the 2 springs out of the stock 3400 lifter and throw them away
put teh 2 new springs from the LS/LT lifter into the 3400 one. reassemble, you are good.
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Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
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Originally posted by RedBird View Postafter everything you've got done to this motor, you wanna cheap out now, instead of buying a set of LT/LS lifters to take parts from? you can geta used set of lifters on ebay for like 40 bucks :P i just missed a set, 87k miles, they sold for 35 shipped that also included the cam, pushrods, and guide, too.
EDIT: got a set of 50k ls6 lifters on ebay for 30 shipped! niceeeeLast edited by MidnightriderZ24; 03-30-2009, 06:47 PM.[SIGPIC]
12.268@117... 11's to come!
turbo 3400: 358whp and 365tq at 9 psi
ASE Master Technician. GM Certified.
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here is a pic i just took for comparison:
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Ive got a set of solid, roller lifters. Im starting to think that maybe Ill go with a set of modded hydraullic rollers at this point. I think I might end up selling my solid roller lifters now.Took a break from working on the car. Got some better tools, got a better shop, got a better job... Its time to burn metal!
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Dave, in the picture, what are the larger springs for? They look like something out of a tranny.
Why are we doing this lifter spring conversion? Is it safe to assume it has something to do with high springs rates?Andy
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the larger ones are the main plunger spring in the lifter, the smaller ones are for the check valve.
higher valve spring pressures and higher RPM's can cause lifter collapse, this is a good way to stop that. Also the stronger check valve spring prevents the lifter from fully pumping up till slightly higher RPM's than stock.. the lifter absorbes some of the cam lift and helps with idle quality.
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Sounds like homebrew Rhoads lifters made out of stock stuff, lol.
EDIT: I think I remember hearing Rhoads lifters have a good concept, but don't work very well, so at least the homebrew ones with LSx springs rocks for you guysLast edited by pocket-rocket; 03-31-2009, 02:00 PM.-60v6's 2nd Jon M.
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I noticed a difference in idle quality and idle vacuum.
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