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  • pushing the evelope of the 3500

    As some of you know, Im in the midst of a hardcore 3500 build-up. The turbo Im using is capable of 550 rwhp.

    (before I continue, some dimen. modifications and parts for the gear heads)

    Block "bored over" .020" (from 3.70 to 3.720-3.722)
    total de-stroke .128" (from 3.31 to 3.192)
    crank pin diam. 2.100 (uses LJ sbc con-rods)
    connecting rod 5.850 (original 5.900)
    comp hiegth 1.4600
    piston to deck +.030"
    head-gasket thk .070"-.071" crushed (annealed copper style)
    CR 9.6:1 apprx.
    3500 steel crank reground, destroked knife-edged and lightened
    (attempting to install oil-squirters on all cyl, dont know if it will work)
    3900 oil-pump (that is, if it fits)
    total displacement- (207 C.U.) true 3.4l

    Parts list

    port 3500 intake plenum & LIM
    ported LX9 heads with "Manley" ss valves and comp cams #122 springs and steel retainers)
    Wottech 65mm TB w/ adapter
    forged "Wiesco" pistons
    Eagle 5.850 "ESP" H-beam rods (bushed) .927 piston pin & .225 crnk-pin bore
    s-256 compressor, t-3 stainless housing w/ .69 A.R. & p-trim wheel
    JAZ 50mm ss WG
    Synchronic BOV
    Snow per. meth inj
    ARP main and head studs
    fiero "stock" iron flywheel (used to have a 7lb fidanza aluminum flywheel. need the extra inertia for hard launching)
    Megasquirt 3.57 board w/ MS2 proc. (configured for DIS, on-board boost control, e-85 sensor input for map-switching, anti-lag) running MS2nE code
    #65 Low-z injectors

    (Final Combo built for 7540rpm max shift-point w/ absolute 8000rpm red-line)

    TKO-600 5-speed tranny
    Mosure 12-bolt rear-end w/ 3.42 gears and all the "fixins"

    The question is, will this motor survive the rated 550hp at the tires without stretching mains or studs.

    Id love some feedback.
    Last edited by Driver_10; 02-22-2009, 12:56 PM.
    Took a break from working on the car. Got some better tools, got a better shop, got a better job... Its time to burn metal!

  • #2
    wow, i hope u enjoy countless days of abusing it! lol

    Its runs!!!>>>Aint No 60* Sound Like Mehttp://youtu.be/YKEmNwa141U

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    • #3
      Still waiting on an answer to the question. Too much for 3500 bottom or not?
      Took a break from working on the car. Got some better tools, got a better shop, got a better job... Its time to burn metal!

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      • #4
        as long as all your clearances are good, you run good oil, don't have oil starvation issues and have a good tune it should be fine.
        Past Builds;
        1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
        1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
        Current Project;
        1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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        • #5
          Guess we will find out eh?
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          • #6
            do they not have forged cranks? that and 4 bolt mains, i think it would handle 600 hsp atleast.

            Its runs!!!>>>Aint No 60* Sound Like Mehttp://youtu.be/YKEmNwa141U

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bob442 View Post
              do they not have forged cranks? that and 4 bolt mains, i think it would handle 600 hsp atleast.
              I certainly hope so.

              I wouldnt normally have my doubts, untill I read a thread some time ago about a guy with 3.1l, 465 rwhp'd chevette that had stretched mains. Im not sure if that was the crossed bolted block or not. He never specified.
              Took a break from working on the car. Got some better tools, got a better shop, got a better job... Its time to burn metal!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ForcedFirebird View Post
                Guess we will find out eh?
                smart ass. (Playing with anxieties like that!)
                Took a break from working on the car. Got some better tools, got a better shop, got a better job... Its time to burn metal!

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                • #9
                  It just makes me sad, knowing I sold you bits and pcs of a motor and it will probably run before mine
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Driver_10 View Post
                    I certainly hope so.

                    I wouldnt normally have my doubts, untill I read a thread some time ago about a guy with 3.1l, 465 rwhp'd chevette that had stretched mains. Im not sure if that was the crossed bolted block or not. He never specified.
                    he was running a gen2 block so no cross-bolts.
                    Past Builds;
                    1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                    1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                    Current Project;
                    1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Superdave View Post
                      he was running a gen2 block so no cross-bolts.
                      Oooooo! Thats good to know! I should surely be able to 550 to the wheels.
                      Took a break from working on the car. Got some better tools, got a better shop, got a better job... Its time to burn metal!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Superdave View Post
                        he was running a gen2 block so no cross-bolts.
                        Ummm, wasn't that a gen 1 block? Could have sworn it was a 3.4....
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                        • #13
                          Links:
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ForcedFirebird View Post
                            Ummm, wasn't that a gen 1 block? Could have sworn it was a 3.4....
                            same difference.. internally atleast.
                            Past Builds;
                            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                            Current Project;
                            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                            • #15
                              How are you coming up with a total destroke of .128"?
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                              2000 Grand Am GT w/ WOT parts

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