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  • #31
    twin turbo might be in the future for me.. im diggin this v6 thing. haha. but i may be able to go and pick up the parts if its cheaper for me, if thats cool with you? so 250 is my goal then... think its possible with the listed parts? stock 3500 top end, full rolle rockers, stiffer pushrods, headers, 2.5" exhaust, no emissions mumbo jumbo, no ac, no power steering, and the 272 cam... and bigger thrttle body with a cold air intake and a good tune.

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    • #32
      Sure, come on down

      I can even give you hand if you get into trouble. I'm probably too cheap when it comes to charging lol. If you build the motor and bring the car down for a weekend or so, we can swap it here, and you can drive home (quickly) .

      I have chip burning equipment too, so we can tune it here as well.
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      • #33
        fantastic. only thing i really would need help with is tuning and repinning the ecu... which there is a guide on thirdgen.org but i wouldnt risk doing that by myself. i will round up the parts and put it together and come down there one weekend and see if you can help me with the tuning aspect of it... i ot the mechanics down, i dont have the stuff or know how to burn chips... shouldnt be a problem though. i am infinitely grateful for this! ou will probably meet me in person two weeks from now when i go to ge the top end. it wont be for about three months before i have all the necessary parts (ecu, headers, etc...) but i will definately do that. would i be able to use me stock wiring with that ecu and top end? and bolt on my alternator bracket to it as well?

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        • #34
          Accy brackets work with a little modification, and there's a few small items you will need to buy, but we can go over all that

          Looking forward to having another hybrid Fbod here in FL
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          • #35
            youre not the only one! i will put the stock 3.4l in there till i have the money and round up all the parts to do it inone bang. and maybe you would know... would a ford t56 bolt up to my bellhousing? from pics it looks the same bolt pattern... and its a 10 spline input shaft...

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            • #36
              youre not the only one! i will put the stock 3.4l in there till i have the money and round up all the parts to do it inone bang. and maybe you would know... would a ford t56 bolt up to my bellhousing? from pics it looks the same bolt pattern... and its a 10 spline input shaft...

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              • #37
                also. what size injectors and fuel pump would you suggest for the combo? 24# injectors? a v8 fuel pump or bigger?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by oxrabidus View Post
                  also. what size injectors and fuel pump would you suggest for the combo? 24# injectors? a v8 fuel pump or bigger?
                  Why? You aren't talking turbo - the stock injectors should flow enough.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Superdave View Post
                    my cam is .539 intake/.549ex.. 288/293 advertised duration on a 110 LSA. RPM range is 2K-8K ( i have the rev limiter at 7K though).
                    Yup, that is a pretty big stick. I can see why it would get a tad tedious around town.

                    I use the 272 on a 3.4 with 9.0 compression and it works very well, although I expect a bit more compression would work even better. I stuck with a cast iron head engine even with the crappy heads as I am only pushing 2000 lbs. around with it. For sure a relatively fat-ass Camaro needs all it can get, and Gen 3 heads would help a lot. But the question arises - why waste time with a V6 when a V8 swap is so easy into the Camaros? And cheaper power to boot.

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                    • #40
                      I did a similar build on a 350 for my '82 T/A and came out with only 235 WHP and 320 TQ.

                      I did use the stock 882 truck heads though. The torque was nice for the ~3200 lb car, too bad it killed 3 TH400 trannies and the stock 200R.
                      Past Builds;
                      1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                      1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                      Current Project;
                      1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by BillS View Post
                        But the question arises - why waste time with a V6 when a V8 swap is so easy into the Camaros? And cheaper power to boot.
                        Blah

                        Same-ol-same-ol.
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                        • #42
                          "But the question arises - why waste time with a V6 when a V8 swap is so easy into the Camaros? And cheaper power to boot"
                          I have a V8 in one of my 1st gen blazers and so do hundreds of others,it's getting replaced with a V6 hybrid turbo.This is a forum for V6's!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by ezrollin View Post
                            "But the question arises - why waste time with a V6 when a V8 swap is so easy into the Camaros? And cheaper power to boot"
                            I have a V8 in one of my 1st gen blazers and so do hundreds of others,it's getting replaced with a V6 hybrid turbo.This is a forum for V6's!
                            Of course I understand that. I enjoy the V6 as well - I own 3 cars that use them and have no GM V8s.

                            But when you are talking about larger heavier cars, there comes a point when insisting on using a V6-60 is nothing but masochism and added expense. This reminds me of the guys that wanted to build the ultimate Iron Duke engines for their Fieros and actually managed a build that didn't come unstuck at modest RPM, and guess what - they had all the performance of a dead stock V6.

                            The V6 is a great little engine - but IMHO it is best in great little cars, and I wouldn't be in any rush to stick one into any fat-assed ground pounders.

                            The first Blazers were nice small trucks - an weigh less than the Camaro we are talking about. I can see using a V6 in one, but it is pushing it as far as weight to power in the end product. If you'll be happier with similar power from a V6 even if it costs you more than from a larger engine, why not, whatever turns your crank - its your money to spend.

                            While this IS a V6 forum, that doesn't mean it is a 'ignore all the facts and stick a V6 into anything' forum. Or maybe I missed the 3.4 powered Hummer owners somehow.

                            I know, I know, my 04 Montana minivan hauls 3700 lbs. with its 3400, so sure, it is practical - you CAN do it, but it doesn't have another model that happened to have a V8 in it as the Camaro does. Not that anyone in their right mind would be trying to hop up a minivan, but if they were, and had a bolt in V8 route to go, I'd be saying the same thing about their project.

                            And to keep my comments in perspective, remember that this guy is usinga cast iron head 3.4. If he were trying to tune a 3900 LZ9 V6 for it, my comments would be different.
                            Last edited by BillS; 01-16-2009, 09:35 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by BillS View Post
                              Of course I understand that. I enjoy the V6 as well - I own 3 cars that use them and have no GM V8s.

                              But when you are talking about larger heavier cars, there comes a point when insisting on using a V6-60 is nothing but masochism and added expense. This reminds me of the guys that wanted to build the ultimate Iron Duke engines for their Fieros and actually managed a build that didn't come unstuck at modest RPM, and guess what - they had all the performance of a dead stock V6.

                              The V6 is a great little engine - but IMHO it is best in great little cars, and I wouldn't be in any rush to stick one into any fat-assed ground pounders.

                              The first Blazers were nice small trucks - an weigh less than the Camaro we are talking about. I can see using a V6 in one, but it is pushing it as far as weight to power in the end product. If you'll be happier with similar power from a V6 even if it costs you more than from a larger engine, why not, whatever turns your crank - its your money to spend.

                              While this IS a V6 forum, that doesn't mean it is a 'ignore all the facts and stick a V6 into anything' forum. Or maybe I missed the 3.4 powered Hummer owners somehow.

                              I know, I know, my 04 Montana minivan hauls 3700 lbs. with its 3400, so sure, it is practical - you CAN do it, but it doesn't have another model that happened to have a V8 in it as the Camaro does. Not that anyone in their right mind would be trying to hop up a minivan, but if they were, and had a bolt in V8 route to go, I'd be saying the same thing about their project.

                              And to keep my comments in perspective, remember that this guy is usinga cast iron head 3.4. If he were trying to tune a 3900 LZ9 V6 for it, my comments would be different.
                              i thought about a 3900 but since it is for front wheel drive applications it would be more expensive... and the way it stands now... a v8 would be far more expensive... considering i can get all i need for a 3500 top end for 450 bucks... with this i dont need a new trans or suspension
                              parts etc... i just bolt it in plug it in tune it and go... but i am thinking a 4.2l straight six further down the road... pretty sure i could get near 400 ponies from it with some money and custom parts... but thats down the road...

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