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  • Mr. Pink will probably want the first one off the machine... and kiss your feet if you can make it happen...LOL

    Does your Brand New Roller Timing Set require a new Timing Case Cover to work... or any re-machining/thinning of the OEM cast version to fit in all this great new stuff?
    Last edited by 60dgrzbelow0; 07-21-2009, 07:26 AM.

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    • It should easily fit under a stock cover with no mods to crank or block. For those with a big cam and springs, I would still recommend using the double roller setup as it is about 35% stronger than the single roller setup.
      MinusOne - 3100 - 4T60E
      '79 MGB - LZ9 - T5
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      http://www.britishcarconversions.com/lx9-conversion

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      • There will be no way in hell I can afford more in this motor right now.... I just bought a house, so it is what it is for a little while. If I find that my new chain isn't holding up then I'll invest in something, and maybe by then I'll have the whole motor out so i wont mind having to get the crank machined to fit the double roller.

        We will see

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        • Originally posted by CNCguy View Post
          It should easily fit under a stock cover with no mods to crank or block. For those with a big cam and springs, I would still recommend using the double roller setup as it is about 35% stronger than the single roller setup.
          How do you define a "big" cam? I'm sure some people (myself included) would like to know at which point in the cam selection process you need to go with the double-roller over the single. It probably isn't as simple as saying "this is the cutoff point", but can you give a estimate or best guess?
          Matt
          2000 Oldsmobile Alero GLS sedan
          3400/3500 hybrid, Diamond Racing forged pistons, Scat I-beams, TCE DRTC, ported heads, WOT Race cam, PAC 1518s, Manley valves, F40 6-speed with Quaife LSD

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          • Originally posted by CNCguy View Post
            I am working on another product as well that may interest some of you. We will most likely be offering an LS6 spring kit to upgrade your lifters. The price should be around $25 a set which would be much cheaper than buying a set of lifters to rob the springs from.
            Son of a bitch..After spending 80$ CAD to get some used LS1 lifters here..

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            • Originally posted by mfuller View Post
              How do you define a "big" cam? I'm sure some people (myself included) would like to know at which point in the cam selection process you need to go with the double-roller over the single. It probably isn't as simple as saying "this is the cutoff point", but can you give a estimate or best guess?


              Anything bigger than stock Not really but without real world testing I can't give advice. Obviously lift, ramp rate and spring pressure will all need to be factored in. I think it would be very safe to assume that the single roller would be safe to use on "Stage 1" setups and the double roller should be used for "Stage 3" but unsure about the area in between. I will look for information that will provide some guidance. Perhaps Ben may have something to add.


              Sanjay..... As they say, timing is everything. Maybe you can use them on your next project.

              I started the spring project because the number of people doing this upgrade seems to be on the rise. It seems like such a waste throwing so much away just to get the springs.
              MinusOne - 3100 - 4T60E
              '79 MGB - LZ9 - T5
              http://www.tcemotorsports.com
              http://www.britishcarconversions.com/lx9-conversion

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              • I have given it thought and you are right, it is hard to say where it would be necessary. Recommended however, I can give a shot.

                If you are running 140# seat pressure and upwards of #300 open pressure on a dynomation specified lifter ramp up rate much above 3.00 and .550+ lift, I would recommend the double roller. Perspective on this, none of the regrinds, and no one running 26986 springs. Comp XFI lobes with .560+ lift running PAC 1518 springs at anything under 1.800" install height would be recommended on the double roller. Required? Maybe not, as a single roller would possibly work well enough. We all know you can get away with less than optimal, but for how long is always the issue.

                I will have a nice chart with the ramp up rates vs the lobes, and the recommended spring/head work for the wot-tech site. I will take it a step further with some "common" cam grinds since the cam selection service isn't as cool as "stages" and people want to window shop first anyway.
                Ben
                60DegreeV6.com
                WOT-Tech.com

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                • Originally posted by CNCguy View Post
                  Update: The single roller timing chain sets are in the process of being machined. Crank gears are blanked out and we will start blanking cam gears later this week. I won't commit to a finish date until they are at the gear cutter and I have a date from him.

                  The sprockets are being made from induction hardened alloy steel and, like the double rollers, will have 5 keyways providing up to +/-6 degrees of adjustment.

                  I am working on another product as well that may interest some of you. We will most likely be offering an LS6 spring kit to upgrade your lifters. The price should be around $25 a set which would be much cheaper than buying a set of lifters to rob the springs from.
                  Any word on the timing sets? How about the LS6 lifter springs?

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                  • We are slowly working on the TC sets but still a bit away from completion. Making a large batch is rather expensive for a small shop like ours. The LS6 springs are in and on sale through www.killerbv6.com until 8/23. I just haven't advertised them on here. Afterwards they will also be available through wot-tech.

                    Not that there would be much interest here but we did just finish building a batch of Sanden A/C compressor brackets for GEN-III engines. Very useful for RWD conversions.

                    MinusOne - 3100 - 4T60E
                    '79 MGB - LZ9 - T5
                    http://www.tcemotorsports.com
                    http://www.britishcarconversions.com/lx9-conversion

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                    • Mount those on the opposite end of the heads for turbo brackets...
                      -Brad-
                      89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power
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                      • I still need idler pullies for my MGB setup.
                        Ben
                        60DegreeV6.com
                        WOT-Tech.com

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                        • Ben.... I assumed you would have a few of them laying around since they come on just about everything. I will be bringing your headers and crossmember with me this weekend.

                          Billet turbo mounts would look nice. I plan to do a turbo 3400 MGB in the not too distant future for a customer in AL. He is redoing the body now and adding A/C. It should be a sweet ride when finished.
                          MinusOne - 3100 - 4T60E
                          '79 MGB - LZ9 - T5
                          http://www.tcemotorsports.com
                          http://www.britishcarconversions.com/lx9-conversion

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                          • I am taking the G6 so I won't have anywhere to put those I will drive out with the cutlass sometime once it is fixed up 100%.
                            Ben
                            60DegreeV6.com
                            WOT-Tech.com

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                            • Originally posted by CNCguy View Post
                              We are slowly working on the TC sets but still a bit away from completion. Making a large batch is rather expensive for a small shop like ours. The LS6 springs are in and on sale through www.killerbv6.com until 8/23. I just haven't advertised them on here. Afterwards they will also be available through wot-tech.

                              Not that there would be much interest here but we did just finish building a batch of Sanden A/C compressor brackets for GEN-III engines. Very useful for RWD conversions.


                              for the car i will be using i would need the alt and compressor switched
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                              • Originally posted by CNCguy View Post
                                The LS6 springs are in and on sale through www.killerbv6.com until 8/23.
                                Damnit... I wish I only had to pay 21 bux for the springs... Instead I spent 98 on a set of LS6 lifters.

                                The cheaper more effective way of things always comes around AFTER I spend the big bux... I hate that.

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                                3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
                                Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
                                Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
                                12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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