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  • #16
    Phil... It will be a couple of months before the single rollers will be ready.

    Isaac... It would require OBD-I, MS or some other after market control.

    Looking at your pic, I would say that the flat top valve cover would fit as it is about .09" taller than a stock cover. The finned cover is almost 1/4" taller. These were primarily designed for engines that were swapped into RWD vehicles. I am working on a more compact version that will easily fit on the front of a FWD engine, including a W-body. The rear cover is more of a problem due to its reduced height on one end to clear the alternator.

    Edit: There is a baffle built into the inside of the valve cover and I will try to add a picture of it tomorrow.

    The single roller has 85~90% of the strength of a double roller and should work great for all except the more radical engines.

    Montess... Yes the cam, TC and cover will now fit.... BUT.... the issue of coolant return still has to be resolved. The LZ engines have U-flow cooling and the coolant exits through a casting that is mounted to the front of the heads. I am sure it can be done but it will still take some work. It would be very easy in a W-body.

    Alxsmt... The ITBs were a one-off set that I made a couple of years ago. They are 45mm and bolt to a 3400 LIM. Definitely have a cool and unique sound when the RPMs come up. If I ever get enough free time and money, I plan to make a limited production run for the LZ engines. They will be around 55mm and have a different design velocity stack.

    Time and money... need more of both.
    Last edited by CNCguy; 10-22-2008, 09:14 PM.
    MinusOne - 3100 - 4T60E
    '79 MGB - LZ9 - T5
    http://www.tcemotorsports.com
    http://www.britishcarconversions.com/lx9-conversion

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    • #17
      I'll be on the look out for the parts CNC, in addition to the U-flow coolant config don't forget the coolant passages in the cylinder heads are different from one end of the head to the other.

      I just ordered my pressure regulator and plan to run a dual fuel feed by connecting a second line to the schraeder valve on the rail after removing the core. I have an electric fuel pressure gauge inside the car for monitoring pressure. I also received my in line fuel pump today so once I redo the wiring and the exhaust and make sure everything is tightly connected and sealed, I hope to have a very dependable swap.

      I'm still amazed at how dependable the old 3100 it replaced was despite cylinder #6 being on the verge of comming apart.

      So far the car cranked right up today after sitting for months. I'll have to work out the VVT repositioning but I think I'm going to set it at the halfway oint or slightly advanced so that it can be retarded from there and note the offline performance improvement (I hope).

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      • #18
        I'm certainly interested in the single roller timing chain.
        I need a new timing chain and I was dreading doing a full teardown and getting the crank machined for the double roller timing chain.

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        • #19
          Just when I thought I was actually going to save money next year. Keep up the good work!
          1995 Grand Am SE

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          • #20
            Would the valve covers be available without the PCV and/or breather holes if requested?

            I dont mind the front PCV but I have no use for the rear breather. The tube's always fall out anyway.

            That finned cover powdercoated black with the fins machined/polished would be AWESOME with a matching polished fin 3500 UIM.

            I'll also be looking at that timing chain come the new year.

            Someone should machine a flange for the thermostat housing too I cant use the stock waterneck. I need to relocate mine to get the rad hose further from the snail.

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            • #21
              Thanks for the kind words everyone.

              Joseph... good point about the coolant flow through the heads.

              A second line to the schraeder valve will help a lot. Good idea.

              I could be wrong but I think you will see a nice increase on the low end when you advance it.

              Chris... I am sure the hole could be left out if needed but would like to add that I was thinking about offering them with tapped holes so users could use braided hoses or a catch can setup or whatever.

              You read my mind about the black powder coating. We were discussing a flat black or crinkle finish with the face recut afterwards.

              We make a billet thermostat housing already but I don't know if it is what you are looking for. They are out of stock right but we will be making more in the near future.


              MinusOne - 3100 - 4T60E
              '79 MGB - LZ9 - T5
              http://www.tcemotorsports.com
              http://www.britishcarconversions.com/lx9-conversion

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              • #22
                single timing chain and a front valve cover are on my list....can we get just the front valve cover? PLEASE....you do great work man.........thanks from all in the community

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by CNCguy View Post
                  Montess... Yes the cam, TC and cover will now fit.... BUT.... the issue of coolant return still has to be resolved. The LZ engines have U-flow cooling and the coolant exits through a casting that is mounted to the front of the heads. I am sure it can be done but it will still take some work. It would be very easy in a W-body.



                  You F ing Rock, that is just the excuse I needed to try and drop my LZ3500 into my Cavi beater!!!!!
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by IsaacHayes View Post
                    2)

                    3) Will it fit under stock front coolant pipe on FWD? Click my sig for larger image/site. Do they have the baffles like stock on the inside that keeps the oil from splashing near the PCV and vent hole?
                    or you can change the outlet thing like i did. got this off a 97 or 98 pontiac minivan and just ran some hose out towards the overflow tank and chased it along the front of the car under the core support for now.
                    cleans up in front of the valve cover and makes it easier to take the valve cover off to check things.


                    oh and those valve covers look sweet especially the one with the painted black lines.
                    Last edited by geldartb; 10-23-2008, 10:57 AM.
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                    99 Grand Am GT
                    3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
                    Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
                    1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur
                    515 515 lift 112 lsa
                    15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come


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                    • #25
                      Yeah I thought of that, but then nothing would support that pipe where it goes back behind the motor to the heater core since the bracket that bolts that pipe to the TB was cut off so I could use the 3500 plenum. Right now the only thing supporting it is where it bolts to the front head and the water pump housing there.

                      The front smooth cover looks nice. No need for a rear cover for the FWD engines. I didn't bother painting my rear once since you can't see it anyway.
                      sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                      1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                      16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                      Original L82 Longblock
                      with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                      Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                      • #26
                        thats what i was thinking with the valve covers. dont really need the rear one and that wouldnt stop me from buying them.
                        it would be nice to have the set but the rear one is pretty much hidden from everything. i didnt paint mine yet and you cant really see it.

                        id be satisfied to have the front one. the one with the black lines would look very nice on my car.

                        isaac on the minivan its all hose from the block to the firewall, and iirc they chased it along the pass side right below where are motor mount is. i ran mine away from the exhaust manifolds and temporarily hung the pipe with a zip tie off the brake fluid res. this will get redone this winter it was only temporary so i wouldn’t have to lose coolant and easier access to the valve cover.

                        ill find a pic of how it is now if not ill take one tomorrow.
                        sigpic
                        99 Grand Am GT
                        3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
                        Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
                        1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur
                        515 515 lift 112 lsa
                        15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come


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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by CNCguy View Post
                          You read my mind about the black powder coating. We were discussing a flat black or crinkle finish with the face recut afterwards.
                          You read my mind...I would defiantly be interested in a set like that.

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                          • #28
                            I might be down for the LZ cam sleeve kit, and a roller TC setup.
                            98 camaro swapping in lz9 th400 setup
                            LZ9 specs: (Subject to Change work in progress)
                            4.0L(after bore 3.917 and stroke 3.3485),carrillo sbc rods(narrowed),wiseco custom forged pistons 8.5:1 CR, TCE Double Roller timing chain, gen 3 cam, P&P heads, headers 1 3/4 primaries into 3-1 collector, and going to run ms2.

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                            • #29
                              That's not EXACTLY what I had in mind for the thermostat housing, but I could make it work quite easily. That has actually given me a few ideas.

                              I'd also be VERY interested in the valve cover(s) with the threaded fittings for a catch can type setup. If you engineered/sold an entire "kit" with or without a catch can I would be interested. Im tired of modifying everything to work on my car, haha.

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                              • #30
                                Any idea when the single roller timing set might be ready? Not meaning to be a pest, but it'd be really nice for a motor build I'm doing this winter.
                                Matt
                                2000 Oldsmobile Alero GLS sedan
                                3400/3500 hybrid, Diamond Racing forged pistons, Scat I-beams, TCE DRTC, ported heads, WOT Race cam, PAC 1518s, Manley valves, F40 6-speed with Quaife LSD

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