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  • #91
    Yeah one reason why I never have put an UDP on is that my motor has a ton of miles, and I'm sure the crank bearings don't look so hot. I don't want to give it an excuse to spin one (or do I? new motor! yeah! lol). With a high HP motor as yours I would be running a dampener. A stock one will probably last a while, but you need the protection with the extra forces you are generating and the extra RPMs.
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    1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
    16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
    Original L82 Longblock
    with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
    Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by siKKa View Post
      I heard a tip from a guy that used to build race engines. Put a touch of LocTite on the backsides of the bearings, being sure not to plug the oil feel holes. He says you'll never spin a bearing again...

      I have a 3400 and am planning on a helluva build over the winter to drop in the corsica. if i dont end up going to B.C
      im sorry did you read the rest of the thread...already mentioned

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      • #93
        I run a stock dampner on my motor and the one I ran the FFP UDP on I just found out has a lunched timing chain set... I wonder if thats related... No issues bearing wise tho.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by gectek View Post
          im sorry did you read the rest of the thread...already mentioned
          I skimmed over it... i have better things to do than read word for word of 2 pages worth of posts... really... im not trying to be ignorant...
          Last edited by siKKa; 09-15-2008, 07:01 PM.
          1994 Cavalier Z24, 5 speed swap, 3500 LX9 (summer ride)
          1998 Lumina LS, (SS) L67 3800 S/C swap (winter ride)
          1999 Honda CBR600 F4, 600cc DOHC I4, cammed.

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          • #95
            I asked the machine shop about the Loctite and they laughed..


            either way, the crank is with them now being turned 10/10. He confirmed without a doubt that the 7484 crank is forged steel, also confirned by other people in the lobby of the shop.


            turnaround time could be a week or more.. hopefully less.
            Past Builds;
            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
            Current Project;
            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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            • #96
              well yah just like alot of machine shops around here havent heard of chamfering valve springs...they may laugh, but i know diesel shops that do it all the time when they have problem childs like that. why dont those bearings look like they go with those rods...they have the notches for 2 tangs on the bearings? why dont the bearings have the tangs? also did you look at ur rockers and see if they were missing any rollers or the side covers...that would be a major issue worth checking out, unless that isnt ur pic that the guy earlier posted

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              • #97
                Those underdrive pullies really rub me the wrong way. I never cared for them on the FWD pushrod engines.
                Lorenzo
                '11 DODGE Challenger R/ T Classic 57M6 Green with Envy "Giant Green Squid"
                '92 PONTIAC Grand Prix SE 34TDCM5 "Red Lobster"

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                • #98
                  i never liked the idea of them not having elastomer or some type of dampening substance...even diesel engines have a viscous material in their dampers...the only engine that doesnt really need it is a V12 or larger...

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                  • #99
                    I have always been told that you shouldn't use anything between the bearings and rod/block as it acts as an insulator and reduces heat transfer. Maybe an old myth... don't know.

                    The dangers of a solid UDP has been debated here many times. They scare me... that's why I have never made any.
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                    '79 MGB - LZ9 - T5
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                    • maybe thats why that FFP UDP spent its life sitting on my desk until i sold it.

                      i never got around to putting it on and im glad i never used it. sold it for what i paid for it.
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                      99 Grand Am GT
                      3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
                      Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
                      1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur
                      515 515 lift 112 lsa
                      15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come


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                      • ^^ That is a good read on the subject.
                        -60v6's 2nd Jon M.
                        91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
                        92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed (getting there, slowly... follow the progress here)
                        94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed
                        Originally posted by Jay Leno
                        Tires are cheap clutches...

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                        • good reading, terrible grammar...

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                          • I never claimed the grammar was as good as the read :P lol
                            -60v6's 2nd Jon M.
                            91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
                            92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed (getting there, slowly... follow the progress here)
                            94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed
                            Originally posted by Jay Leno
                            Tires are cheap clutches...

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                            • Dave I also have a crank pulley you could use, it's actually the one from the 3500 (where is your original)? Granted I believe that the 3500's was a bit larger, it may be a bit lighter? I don't have both to compare but I am fairly sure they were a bit different...
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                              1996 3500GP Coupe, "Bright White".
                              3500 swap, 60degreeV6 1393 Cam, Ported Intakes, Comp Cams Valve Springs, 65mm TB, Custom Pushrods, S&S Headers, 97 PCM with DHP Powrtuner, 2.5" back to dual Hooker Aerochambers, SS Brake Lines, Addco swaybar, KYB's, Intrax Springs, STB's, etc!

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                              • fyi all the balancers from the reg 3500 up to the vvt engines are the same...

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