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  • Fuel Injector Upgrade Question

    Has anyone else used the newer style injectors with Gen II fuel rails? I am running GM #25323971 injectors in the race engine that I am finishing assembly of. A buddy of mine helped splice the proper injector wiring clips onto my Gen II wiring harness so at least the wiring should be "plug and play." I have a question about the fit of the injectors in the fuel rails though. The original injectors each had a metal clip that held them snuggly to the rail. Due to the shape of the new injectors, these clips won't fit them. Is there a different style of clip used for the newer injectors? If so, does anyone have a part number, or even better yet, six clips that they would be willing to sell me? Help will be much appreciated as always!
    Joe Morgan
    bracketracer
    '93 Sunbird SE 3.1/5-speed 14.869 @ 90.96 Heavily Modded
    '00 Grand Prix GTP Sedan 13.689 @ 100.97 Lightly Modded
    '09 G8 GXP Manual Trans 13.166 @ 106.47 BONE STOCK

  • #2
    If noone has these, I would appreciate knowing what year and model these injectors are from. I believe them to be 3100 around 2000. That way I can contact the dealer to order them. Thank you!
    Joe Morgan
    bracketracer
    '93 Sunbird SE 3.1/5-speed 14.869 @ 90.96 Heavily Modded
    '00 Grand Prix GTP Sedan 13.689 @ 100.97 Lightly Modded
    '09 G8 GXP Manual Trans 13.166 @ 106.47 BONE STOCK

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    • #3
      they are the 2000+ 3x00 and should flow 22lbs hr at 55 psi

      there should be numbers on them like 0 280 and different numbers after that take those numbers and go here to find out what they flow


      from this site http://www.fuelinjectorwhse.com/injectors.php?id=MP3067
      they come with a 2 yr or 24,000 mile warrenty
      sigpic
      99 Grand Am GT
      3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
      Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
      1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur
      515 515 lift 112 lsa
      15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come


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      • #4
        Thank you for the info! They do show my exact injector on the site. They list them as 11.8 ohms, 200cc@3 bar. I assume that translates to the 22 lbs/hr @ 55 psi that you mentioned.

        Still seeking info about the injector retaining clips though. Do the 3X00 engines use them? I will check with the dealer just to be sure too, and order them if they do.
        Joe Morgan
        bracketracer
        '93 Sunbird SE 3.1/5-speed 14.869 @ 90.96 Heavily Modded
        '00 Grand Prix GTP Sedan 13.689 @ 100.97 Lightly Modded
        '09 G8 GXP Manual Trans 13.166 @ 106.47 BONE STOCK

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        • #5
          yeah that places tests them at 43.5 psi
          yeah the 3x00's use a little clip kinda like a C shape but has two arm's that grab on to the rail
          sigpic
          99 Grand Am GT
          3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
          Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
          1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur
          515 515 lift 112 lsa
          15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come


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          • #6
            Thank you!
            Joe Morgan
            bracketracer
            '93 Sunbird SE 3.1/5-speed 14.869 @ 90.96 Heavily Modded
            '00 Grand Prix GTP Sedan 13.689 @ 100.97 Lightly Modded
            '09 G8 GXP Manual Trans 13.166 @ 106.47 BONE STOCK

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            • #7
              found a pic so you make sense of my rambling about the clip
              Attached Files
              sigpic
              99 Grand Am GT
              3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
              Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
              1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur
              515 515 lift 112 lsa
              15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come


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              • #8
                Thanks for the picture. These clips are very different from the earlier style that I have, so I will be ordering them from the dealer today. I really appreciate all the help!
                Joe Morgan
                bracketracer
                '93 Sunbird SE 3.1/5-speed 14.869 @ 90.96 Heavily Modded
                '00 Grand Prix GTP Sedan 13.689 @ 100.97 Lightly Modded
                '09 G8 GXP Manual Trans 13.166 @ 106.47 BONE STOCK

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                • #9
                  i dont know if you have any junkyards around you but you could prob go there and get enough clips and have spares for the cost of what they charge you to get in the yard.

                  i dont know what the dealer charges for them but thats another option.
                  sigpic
                  99 Grand Am GT
                  3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
                  Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
                  1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur
                  515 515 lift 112 lsa
                  15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come


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                  • #10
                    Dealer cost isn't really that bad, only $10.06 for the set of 6. I couldn't save enough to justify the trip to the salvage yard, or the time it would take to pull them.

                    Thank you for all the excellent info!
                    Joe Morgan
                    bracketracer
                    '93 Sunbird SE 3.1/5-speed 14.869 @ 90.96 Heavily Modded
                    '00 Grand Prix GTP Sedan 13.689 @ 100.97 Lightly Modded
                    '09 G8 GXP Manual Trans 13.166 @ 106.47 BONE STOCK

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                    • #11
                      thats pretty resaonable. for that money i couldnt justify the trip myself either
                      sigpic
                      99 Grand Am GT
                      3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
                      Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
                      1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur
                      515 515 lift 112 lsa
                      15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come


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                      • #12
                        I just got back from the dealer with the clips. They are slightly different from the ones in your picture, but they work perfectly. The parts guy said they are correct for 2001-2005. You actually get a packet of 8 of them (they must be the same for some V-8 application too), for $10.06 + tax. They are GM part #17113670 in case anyone else needs to buy them too. Thanks again for all the help!
                        Joe Morgan
                        bracketracer
                        '93 Sunbird SE 3.1/5-speed 14.869 @ 90.96 Heavily Modded
                        '00 Grand Prix GTP Sedan 13.689 @ 100.97 Lightly Modded
                        '09 G8 GXP Manual Trans 13.166 @ 106.47 BONE STOCK

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