My New Project

[3400-95-Modified]

Well I never started a thread over here because its mostly a Beretta thing, but I have taken on a new project.

It consists of removing a stock 96 3100 from a Rust free 96 beretta base, putting that motor in my red 95 and then taking my Hybrid and putting a larger cam in it, with better springs, some more port work, and possibly a 3500 upper plenum and then droping that in the 96. Also the 96 trans will get rebuilt, with all my normal tweaks I did to the 94 I currently drive, along with a Yank Performance 3k stall converter. Gear ratio will be the 1.12:1 chain combo to underdrive the trans, and then the 3.05 diff with the EP LSD, resulting in a 3.42 FDR... Little more agressive than my 3.33 but still conservative in comparison to a 3.73

Other toys in store for this car is brand new KYB's and Eibach springs, modified J-body poly front control arm bushings Z26 rear axle with internal sway bar and 26mm external addco piggie backed.. I'm gonna test this with the stock front to see if it has a tad more over steer rather than pushing... Also its getting N-body knuckles, bearings, outer CV's and brake setup... I may jump to the F-body stuff but not right away.

Now the car itself is getting a Z26 Body kit treatment, since its a Base, and will also be getting a fresh coat if its FACTORY color... The reason I'm keeping it factory is because its a Rare color for the year, Only 1,455 produced so I'll keep that aspect of it. It will also be getting my Walbro fuel pump, gauge pillar and gauges, full cluster, Z26 seats if all works out, And the blue nitrous bottle in the trunk. Stereo will stay stock since I want the tunes in my Daily Driver over this car, since it will be a toy.

Here are some pics of the car and parts piles I got going on already.











N-body Setup's and the Z rear axle






Z26 Fog setup installed and awaiting bumper.



Z26 Parts

[sprucegagt]

Any possibility that 1.12:1 chain drive combo will work in a 4T45E?

[3400-95-Modified]

Not the one I have, but I think the 45e may have had that combo as well, I'm not totally sure though.

[IsaacHayes]

3.73 would be about what a hm282 is, comparing 1st gears, and 4th on the auto to 5th on the 282. Interesting. With the 3.42 1st will shift 5mph sooner than stock, and 2nd 10mph sooner. 300 rpm higher at 70. Not bad.

I have a stock FE1 front bar on my 3100, and a Z51 bar out back. You do get more over-steer. I do have a FE3 front bar just not installed, I didn't want to drop the sub-frame for fear of messing up my alignment. If I can do this without messing up the alignment I would of put it on along with new center bushings though. The front does lean more than the rear, more than I'd like. Struts/shocks have many miles on them now too, but the rear has lost pressure in one side, but still doesn't lean like the front. The front has a STB but no brace in the rear.

Although when it does come loose it's easy to correct with 205's. With the 225 tires though it's a bit different. The rear likes to let go all at once and then catch, which can be a bit scary. To make up for that I go with a little extra pressure in the tires and you can feel when it's at the edge without all of a sudden letting go. This way I actually can go through corners faster and more predictable. You feel a bit of a drift perhaps instead of all of a sudden sliding out. So with a larger front bar I'm sure with some adjusting of tire pressures you can dial it in pretty much anyway you want still. I get even tire wear with the variations in pressure I run. However on the 205 stock size the edges always wore fast if I ran the stock psi. My guess is the tires were stretched too much with the 7" wheels and most of the pressure was right on the edge since they didn't stick past the edge of the rims. A little higher psi and the center made more contact.

[silvergtjrad]

When I was really young, my friends parents had a beretta in that exact color. We used to call it the barneymobile.

[JMo60]

the car is PINK. i like it, but i dont know if i could bring myself to rock it?? i guess im not man enough to drive pink cars

[latemodelnewbee]

If you paint it the same color it better be fast, if you look at all the old hot rods the pink ones where just stuipid fast. And the best part when you beat some one and they catch up to at the next light you can tell them " dude you got beat by a PINK BERETTA" that will hurt there pride.

[3400-95-Modified]

Thats what I'm shootin for. lol

The car right now will be getting the motor thats in my red car, which proved to do a 14.801 N/A on a really hot day, and its getting a cam and new springs and some more port work. Right now its only a milzy stage 1 cam and Ben told me that gets you about 5hp over what it does with a factory cam in it.... so I'm around 220 crank power now I think... and he's shooting for 285-295 N/A crank power... and then the cam is ground to get hard off of nitrous so thats gonna possibly bring it to sub 13's maybe 12's if I'm wicked lucky. But yeah the two times in my sig, the 13.818 was with a stock 3400 and a 100shot, dynoed at 206whp, and the 14.801 is how it's setup now. I never got a nitrous time on the hybrid with this cam but thats ok, its gonna be irrevelant.

A few Beretta guys told me to get a small shocker logo and put it in the quarter windows... I think that would be hilarious, because well the car will probably be a shocker... LOL

[latemodelnewbee]

Or get the Beretta firearms logo

[mfuller]

Any possibility that 1.12:1 chain drive combo will work in a 4T45E?

I *think* yuou can get parts for this to work from GM.
As we all know, many parts in the 4T45 are shared with the 4T40, like the billet accumulator pistons you can get from Superior Transmission.
99-05 N-bodies with the automatic and a 4-cylinder had a FDR of 3.42:1, owing to the 3.05 diff, combined with 33/37 tooth drive/driven sprokets.
I've been contemplating it for years, but I'm not 100% sure it'll work (don't know if any other hard parts are required between the sprokets and a new chain.....I have a PowrTuner so I'm sure I can make it shift right), but I'm worried that it'll make the huge valleys between gear ratios worse than they already are.

[sprucegagt]

I *think* yuou can get parts for this to work from GM.
As we all know, many parts in the 4T45 are shared with the 4T40, like the billet accumulator pistons you can get from Superior Transmission.
99-05 N-bodies with the automatic and a 4-cylinder had a FDR of 3.42:1, owing to the 3.05 diff, combined with 33/37 tooth drive/driven sprokets.
I've been contemplating it for years, but I'm not 100% sure it'll work (don't know if any other hard parts are required between the sprokets and a new chain.....I have a PowrTuner so I'm sure I can make it shift right), but I'm worried that it'll make the huge valleys between gear ratios worse than they already are.

I thought the 4 cyl. automatics were 4T45E units. Learned something new today. But wouldn't a higher final drive ratio help, with the exception of 1st gear?

[IsaacHayes]

I can see it as not helping on downshifts. For instance my car will downshift into 2nd at 70, and the RPM's go way up and it tears off. 2.97 FDR. But if you had say 3.73, it wouldn't downshift to 2nd, and it would stay in 3rd, which would be less RPMs. So at certain speeds it might not work well...

[3400-95-Modified]

thats only if you cant program it, I can set my downshifts for whatever I want them to be.

But I'm being a little conservative on the gear, I want more than 3.33 but not as crazy as 3.73... I can always go higher later if I wish, by just putting the 3.29 back in the trans, its easy to swap diffs... but the only issue there would be I have the LSD in the 3.05... so I would have to get another or get a TG unit or weld the spiders solid... LOL I wouldn't want the 3.29 diff to be perminate...

[IsaacHayes]

Well I was thinking along the lines that it won't downshift at that speed because it'd be way above the rev limiter lol. But the ratio is higher so being stuck in a gear at 3500 isn't so bad, it'll rev quickly anyway.

[3400-95-Modified]

Well the gear spacing doesnt change, if you do all the math the peeks and valleys all stay the same but they are just nudged in either direction the amount of the gear change so essentailly all I'm doing is upping the FDR so that first gear is shorter and so on, and that just allows you to take off quicker... rather than first running all the way up to 40mph... thats crazy.