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  • WaterCooled Intercooler theory

    I want to buy this intercooler



    But......

    How would I hook water up to it, would I tap into my Radiator, would I need a seperate pump and resavoir?

    I was thinkng I could use a watercooler pump system from a Computer kit to hook up to the intercooler, but would it be enough pump volume to keep the I/C cool and pumped with water.

    Where if any can I find a pump and resevior for the purpose to keep the watercooled intercooler colder than my radiator would.

    Cause if I tapped into my radiator wouldnt that do the oppisit, wouldnt it cool my water, since the supercharger air would be passing through the water cooled I/C. therefore cooling the water, doing the opisit of what I want it to do, or would it cool both intake air temp and water temp.

  • #2
    or could I tap into my AC lines for coolant flow

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    • #3
      Ok I Found a pump that will work I think
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      But what coolant do I use and what resavior

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      • #4
        I have seen people using ice water at the track.

        Many times the thought of using the A/C compressor to pump freon through one crossed my mind. Not only would it run cooler, but it would be far less dentrimental to the motor if a leak should ever occur. Also it's appetizing not to have the I/C mounted in the front of the car (the Firebird has no grille for flow), and the water to air coolers are much smaller to boot.
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        • #5
          My advice get a decent pump like the one from a lightning F150
          it's a bosch pump so it's quality and it has more capacaty.

          there was one on ebay for 89$.

          as for the cooling ...use some medium sized coolant radiator from a smal car or motorbike and have this mounted in the drive wind.

          oilcoolers/transm.coolers will work to but arent really effiecient.

          that's about it..from A to Z.

          look for a smal waterreservoir/canister from some cars cooling system
          nothing's impossible-it's just a mindset

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          • #6
            My cobra has a nice setup, and you can get a replacement intercooler pump from LFP performance for far less than the pos bosch that comes in the car. you can also get an intercooler resevoir on lfp performance store as well which may suit your application. They also sell intercooler electric fans......
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            • #7
              Have you also considered a chemical intercooler like the one from Snow Performance?



              There are many other companies as well this type of set up utilizes on demand intercooling and only uses the chemical when needed......especially when space is a premium.

              Something to consider.....eBay has kits as well....all work fine when installed properly

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              • #8
                Just do a normal Air to Air intercooler. No offense by why make something more harder and complicated when you seem to take so long to do other simple things?
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                • #9
                  Because air to water is more efficient method of cooling the intake charge, it takes advantage of the thermal conductivity of water as well as the convective air cooling. It is more stable and works even when the car is not moving. If you are running low boost you can get away with an air to air but if you are doing a lot of work on the air you are going to need something better. Snow coolers are nice to. If you want simple just run a dry shot of nos in the intake when you are at WOT or when you crank up the boost.
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                  • #10
                    Yeah Im going wih the air to water to air I/C its smaller so it will be easier to mount I will just relocate the battery to the trunk, I alread have cables to the trunk for it(had 2 batteries at one point)
                    What coolant do I use......Reglar antifreze or what
                    Would tapping the AC ine work?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by john_V63400 View Post
                      Yeah Im going wih the air to water to air I/C its smaller so it will be easier to mount I will just relocate the battery to the trunk, I alread have cables to the trunk for it(had 2 batteries at one point)
                      What coolant do I use......Reglar antifreze or what
                      Would tapping the AC ine work?
                      What the hell are you tapping the a/c lines for? A/C systems use freon. You can't run an A2W using freon from the A/C system. Besides, in order to utilize your car's A/C in an intercooler setup, you'd need to add another evaporator, which changes a good deal of the a/c system's capacity, or you'll need to rip out the evaporator in the dash and move it into the engine bay.

                      You're not going to tap into anything. The water side of the intercooler setup will be a separate system from the cooling system in the car. It should have it's own pump, supply and return lines, heat exchanger, and reservoir.

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                      • #12
                        Something like this....



                        Im completely new to air water I/C so bare with me

                        But would that work up there..the link, is that what I, looking for

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                        • #13
                          I don't think that's even an intercooler setup. It looks like, and the description leads you to believe, that's a wet injection kind of deal.

                          A2W systems use two heat exchangers to remove the heat from the intake charge. One exchanger (typically mounted on the front of the car) removes heat from the water/coolant, and the other exchanger (mounted in the path of the intake air) removes the heat from the intake air.

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                          • #14
                            Then what the heck do I need to buy or where, and again what coolant would I use.......

                            Regular radiator coolant or what

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                            • #15
                              you could piss in it if you want lol. just had to

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