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  • #61
    Originally posted by rickykline View Post
    so what kinda psi are you running to make 700hp? and if your running 15-18psi you should be around 400-450hp daily... doubt it.. me and several others here are running 10-12psi with almost 400whp.. youd have to boost to 30 before you got near the 700 mark... good luck... strap it to a dyno jet and post it and ill believe it...
    When are people going to learn that "Boost does NOT equal power". You can have less boost on one engine, but make more power than the one beside it, and here's why....

    Remember this:

    "Boost, as in PSIG (Pounds per Square Inch Gauge) is just a measurement of restriction"

    Basically as the hole gets larger there will be less restriction (Boost), but higher flow of air through that hole, creating more power at less "boost".

    So two "same" engine can have two differenmt "boost pressures" but the one with less boost pressure could make more power, if it has a more free flowing intake and exhaust system, and yes the exhaust system will also have an effect on boost pressure. If the air can't get out, then it will just be backed up, and artficially raise the intake pressures.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by rickykline View Post
      so what kinda psi are you running to make 700hp? and if your running 15-18psi you should be around 400-450hp daily... doubt it.. me and several others here are running 10-12psi with almost 400whp.. youd have to boost to 30 before you got near the 700 mark... good luck... strap it to a dyno jet and post it and ill believe it...

      I believe he said he ran the lower PSI for daily driving and bumped it up for the maximum one time dyno run. I think he said around 400 for daily driving. I'm curious though, did you measure what PSI you were running during the dyno run? I'd be interested to know how much it took.

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      • #63
        A long winded cam like his 225/235 and high rpm makes sense for high horsepower, I believe I saw on his site port, polish and valve angle job. My guess is the turbo is really big because the exhaust side of the cam has a lot more duration which is usually not the case for a typical turbocharged engine where back pressure starts to cause contamination of the intake charge at some point, but the better the turbo allows exhaust to flow the more the cam grind can favor a naturally aspirated flow design. The meth injection helps a good bit also.

        Some stock 3400s are running in the 300hp range at half the boost level he mentioned so double it, add a cam, work the heads and spin it a little harder and what he posted sounds practical.

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        • #64
          I never had issues with the actual shafts, it was always the CV's that failed. Blew the outer on the stock axles (Well with STS outer CV joints), blew the same place on a DSS axle, then on the last attempt for 11's, when we launched at 16 psi, sheared the outerhousing on the driver's side inner CV.

          The tranny did explode on me on the highway, and a Phantom grip does absolutely nothing. Anyone who claims it does has stock HP or is smoking something.
          Curtis
          91\' Turbo Z24
          http://www.turboz24.com

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          • #65
            ive been through about 5 axles or so... most all of them were driver side...
            1996 beretta w/a 04' 3400 3.5 top end, 42.5lb hr, 180*thermo, t3t4 .63ar 60 trim, LC1 WB, FMIC, greddy rs BOV,TIAL 38mm wastegate,791xv,fidanza,stage III clutch,TG LSD,ffp udp,walbro 255 lph,strut tower brace,22 rear sway,30 front sway,92 5sp tranny,92 subframes,all solid mounts,kyb shocks and struts,eibachs,battery in trunk,tgp map sensor,DHP Powrtuner,euro front and rear and more to come soon...mods sitting in boxes waiting install....zo4 kit,GTU wing,and more..

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            • #66
              Originally posted by SHOoff View Post
              What I love the most is (and it seems to happen a lot over on j-body.org).... someone that NOONE has ever heard of or EVER seen at ANY show suddenly shows up on the internet. Says they have some car that's at least 2 or 3x more powerful than the most powerful one on the board. Claims how they own some wonderful shop and all kinda BS. Then they expect everyone to just automatically believe it. Even if it is true, you've got some proving to do. You've blatantly stated that you use this different turbo at the track.... so hows come nobody has ever seen you run anywhere?

              And another thing..... why did you convert to a timing belt?
              you know i dont know and i dont care that people have never heard of me. so people have to know me so i can accomplish stuff??? and dont mock my facility, i swear thats somthing that just pisses me off, if you have doubts come on down and take a look, heres a part of what im affiliated with... www.accuburners.com
              this is my brothers and my facility, so if you dont believe me, ill take pictures of my new facility , 55,000 sqft, with two 2 post lifts, one 4 post lift, and everything in between. and i dont expect everyone to believe it, i really dont care if you dont believe it.

              and i dont know why people havnt seen me run my car, i had the car out for 3 months this year, and only took it to the track maybe...2 times. bith times i ran i had rad problems so never a proper pass. (15's is not normal.)

              also, i converted to timing belt because we were trying to design a system far stronger than the stock single chain, but it got way to complicated to sell to the market, but i already had one sitting and said, "what the hell" and fit it on.

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              • #67
                Your car looks nice and has the parts list to make a lot of power (the GT4094 should be capable of 700 horsepower at the crank), but the dyno chart just looks wrong. The horsepower and torque that it shows don't match up with each other (it doesn't look like a graph of horsepower and torque). Horsepower and torque should ALWAYS cross at 5252 rpm if they're based on the same measurements. With that assumption, you would then have to turn 9754 rpm to reach the 104 mph shown on your dyno chart.

                Ignoring where the numbers cross: Going off of your horsepower and torque at 104 mph, your engine was turning 8640 rpm.

                I really want to see more about your car and find out more information. Please have a chat with the dyno operator though. He's done something quite odd to your dyno graph...

                Tim
                Last edited by timg; 03-16-2007, 07:18 PM.
                1995 Z34 - T04E "60" trim, 42.5 lb/hr injectors, AEM WBO2, FFP UD&DB, 3" exhaust, 2800 stall, shift kit, tranny cooler, Powerslot, Hawk HPS, rear disc conversion, KYB, Eibach, HMS F&R STB, Fittipaldi Force 18" wheels, big stereo, lots more coming eventually...
                325 whp 350 lb-ft

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                • #68
                  hey thnaks for the reply, yeah, im actually going to tie it doen to a dynapack instead of the clayton dyno, he said that it may be related to the dyno belts slipping. but were still aiming for at least 650 wheel. also, in mph wise, we never really calculated for tire size, clayton dynos need tire diameter to know actual mph... but yeah, thusrdays the initial tune, and friday should be heads up day for me, and i will get back asap

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by malibusst View Post
                    you know i dont know and i dont care that people have never heard of me. so people have to know me so i can accomplish stuff??? and dont mock my facility, i swear thats somthing that just pisses me off, if you have doubts come on down and take a look, heres a part of what im affiliated with... www.accuburners.com
                    this is my brothers and my facility, so if you dont believe me, ill take pictures of my new facility , 55,000 sqft, with two 2 post lifts, one 4 post lift, and everything in between. and i dont expect everyone to believe it, i really dont care if you dont believe it.

                    and i dont know why people havnt seen me run my car, i had the car out for 3 months this year, and only took it to the track maybe...2 times. bith times i ran i had rad problems so never a proper pass. (15's is not normal.)

                    also, i converted to timing belt because we were trying to design a system far stronger than the stock single chain, but it got way to complicated to sell to the market, but i already had one sitting and said, "what the hell" and fit it on.
                    Who cares if I mock your facility. It doesnt matter to me what kinda lifts you have in it. It makes no difference to me if you just have a bunch of Craftsman 3 ton jacks, and roll them around to where they need to be.

                    Running a 15 second time definately does not sound like 700hp to me. Personally do not care if you say it was running like crap. EXCUSES ARE FOR LOSERS. Christ.... last time I raced something with my 3400, I missed a gear (actually shifted into the wrong one) and the other car spanked me bad. I didnt sit and whine about how if this or that did/didnt happen I'd have won. It was just a simple "I missed the shift into 3rd gear, so I lost"

                    Unless the car can make repeated successful passes with a timeslip that shows that it has the power that you claim. What good is it to show a video of a car sitting in one spot running? Take some clips of it running down the track fighting for traction for the love of God. Basically, if it doesnt make a 700hp pass I say it doesnt have 700hp. And I will continue to do so until it makes a 700hp pass.
                    97 Cavalier RS
                    3400, Isuzu MK7

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                    • #70
                      be sure to get pics and or vids of the run!
                      http://www.w-body.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24111
                      Car Domain site!
                      13* cam timing, p&p\'d lower intake, tapered t.b, FFP chip, FFP mount and the 1st lumina w/HUD!!!

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                      • #71
                        Ok, A single turbo, boosted and I am assuming sprayed engine at 700hp. I am guessing if he could actually build it for under hmm $20K he could go to Indy and start building 2000hp V8s and v12s? I would guess he is putting out around 400hp and 350ft lbs of torque and would be extremely lucky to try to keep any sort of traction while going straight and turning is right out.
                        2014 Chevy Cruise LT
                        2000 Kawasaki ZX-6R Ninja Motorcycle

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                        • #72
                          Updates?

                          14.60 @ 96.33 for now...

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                          • #73
                            Any updates???, The day has past allready

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                            • #74
                              Blown transmissions don't dino well


                              He can get the engine there he is using methanol injection. I just don't buy that the little f23 is going to keep together at 500flbs torque... and yes things break at the weakest link he has sad it breaks clutches... cuss if you could ever really power that thing and do a solid launch with a clutch to hold that power you would shred that thing the biggest problem that most have pointed out here have a problem with is the dino he used... and his image of his dino run.

                              He has never elaborated on his system that he is using IE engine management.(A task in its own right to set up and dial I haven't take it on but I'm sure alot of people here can.) I can only speak about setting the jets on my motorcycle off of the A/F ratio gague i put on it. That took me hours of tuning and running back to the store buying different main jets needles and air jets to get that right. Computer yeah you can have a little bit of help from the computer telling it you need to be here but. Got to have a guy to do that and the time. That equals money or sexual favors.


                              Never talked about boost control.

                              He is still stocking with the GM Radiator???

                              Can we put this to bed?

                              The horse is dead unless he wants to come back and get verified proof. I have checked back a couple of times to see that video he talks of against the SRT-10 Ram truck. I drove that thing when I was in car sales that needs more weight in the back end but retarded fast.

                              Oh one more issue he wanted to buy a throttle body from here?? But according to the website

                              At first i had a Spec Stage 3 clutch. lasted 3 weeks then replaced it with a Spec Stage 3+ which worked very well on the street, and held up to the punishment. Now i am Experimenting with a Spec Stage 5 BUT i am Designing a Twin Disc system which will work with 2 (TWO) Slave cylinders and 2 spec stage 3+ discs. but i am still designing it and its kind of odd but i have to re work the Firewall for dual master cylinders.

                              Well that takes some damn brains...


                              He is just waiting for someone else to figuring out how to take a 62 or a 65mm throttle body and making a bolt and adapter plate for it to mount to your engine. Even if it was adapted from something else.


                              I'm done stop replying to this thing please
                              Last edited by ignoreance; 03-27-2007, 04:34 AM.

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                              • #75
                                If I remember correctly he is using the DHP tuner.
                                2000 Grand Am GT
                                2011 Chevy Impala

                                "The world's best cam combined with a poor set of heads will produce an engine that's a dog. But bolt on a set of great heads even with a poor cam, and that engine will still make great power." ~John Lingenfelter

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