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  • #16
    Whats the difference in irridium or copper from stock. And whats the advantages of going one step colder, and last but not least where can I order those things. Thanks. I know its alot, but Hey I dont know????

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    • #17
      would these plugs work? Can somebody look at them and tell me thanks


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      • #18
        yeah those plugs will work. same ones as the 2000+ injectors. so youll be fine.
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        3400/3500 -Solid trans mount--TCE 65mm T-body---85mm LS2 maf---1 1/4' TCE intake spacers with 3400 upper--SLP Catback with flowmaster 80--TOG headers
        Modded 3400 lifters with LT1 springs---Comp Cams 26986 Springs
        1357 cam 227 233 .050 dur
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        15.232@88.85mph on stock 3400---New time to come


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        • #19
          Sonic test the block before you bore it over anymore. Every block is different.
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          • #20
            My Machine Shop Repower are going to bore my block another .020 on monday to make sure the cylinder will clean up. Monday morining Im going to see if they have the capability to sonic test it. Im almost sure it will be fine,
            Ive heard of some guys going .060 over on those blocks. Im only at .040 after this .020 bore.

            Im going to buy that DHP set up from the guy whos demoding is monte carlo.
            I cant thank him enough for saling that to me.

            And I ordered those injectors off e-bay.

            All thats left is on monday to see if .020 will be good enough and go from there and order my pistons.

            Oh yeah and to order my MAF from the dealer and throw that back in the mix.

            But where should I put it back in at..

            My setup goes...K&N Filter....Intake tube.....RSM Blower..Blow Off Valve...throttle Body.

            Where should I put it.

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            • #21
              The consensus seems to be K&N -> Vortech -> BOV -> MAF -> TB
              Matt
              2000 Oldsmobile Alero GLS sedan
              3400/3500 hybrid, Diamond Racing forged pistons, Scat I-beams, TCE DRTC, ported heads, WOT Race cam, PAC 1518s, Manley valves, F40 6-speed with Quaife LSD

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              • #22
                This has been covered before... MAF goes in between the throttle body and the BOV so that you don't lose metered air out the BOV. Best place I've found for spark plugs is http://www.clubplug.net/ . The point of going one step colder is to make sure the plug doesn't create a hot spot where you can get pre-ignition. Since you are running boost your combustion temps will be higher and surfaces in the combustion chamber will get hotter. Anything you can do to keep the temps down will give you a bigger safety margin and allow you to run more timing advance which equals HP. Thats another reason not to use platinum plugs in a performance engine. Platinum is designed for long life and it gets hot to keep impurities burned off the electrode so they don't foul up. Iridium tips are smaller so they give a faster hotter spark, and I've found them to last pretty well under mild amounts of boost. Copper are more durable though under extreme conditions like high boost or nitrous use, and they are good conductors so they make a good spark but need to be replaced more often. How good your tune is though and what AFR you run at will determine how fast they get dirty.
                '97 Grand Prix GT 3800 (sold)
                '00 Grand Am GT 3400 supercharged
                13.788 @ 103.73 mph, 320whp 300 ft/lbs
                Gotta love boost!

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                • #23
                  So when I buy my plugs what properties do I want to look at to tell if they are colder plugs. Do you mean PLatinum is the hottest then irridium is second hottest then copper is the coldest.

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                  • #24
                    Ordering a MAF might be expensive. Try a junkyard maybe, but need to make sure it's in good condition. Put the MAF before the throttle body, and after the blow off valve.

                    Super charger - BOV - MAF- Throttle body.

                    Reason being is you want the MAF to read what the engine is getting. If the maf is before the bov, the computer will flood out when the bov opens, since it thinks you were getting lots of air, but you're not since the bov released it all.
                    Last edited by IsaacHayes; 02-03-2007, 08:38 PM.
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                    1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                    16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                    Original L82 Longblock
                    with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
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                    • #25
                      please someone answer

                      So when I buy my plugs what properties do I want to look at to tell if they are colder plugs. Do you mean PLatinum is the hottest then irridium is second hottest then copper is the coldest.

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                      • #26
                        Since you are going with mild boost I would go with the Iridium plugs that are one heat range colder than stock.

                        The following article explains the heat range a little better:
                        2000 Grand Am GT
                        2011 Chevy Impala

                        "The world's best cam combined with a poor set of heads will produce an engine that's a dog. But bolt on a set of great heads even with a poor cam, and that engine will still make great power." ~John Lingenfelter

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                        • #27
                          Awsome that article helped alot, thanks alot.

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                          • #28
                            Yeah, colder heat range doesn't really have anything to do with the material it's made out of. It's other factors like the depth around the electrode etc. Best thing is to call the plug manufacturer to get a part number for plugs that are colder than stock, or get a number from someone here that knows them. I've used denso iridium plugs #IT20 that are one range colder than stock. Don't know the number for NGK's or anything else.
                            '97 Grand Prix GT 3800 (sold)
                            '00 Grand Am GT 3400 supercharged
                            13.788 @ 103.73 mph, 320whp 300 ft/lbs
                            Gotta love boost!

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                            • #29
                              autolite vanilla coppers are 606 stock i think and 605 is one range colder, that is .060 gap, the 100 series is the .040 gap, just change last # down 1 to go 1 range colder

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                              • #30
                                Anyone have the number for the 1 step colder autolite copper for a 2nd gen 3.1? No biggie if not, I'll look later, I've just got to head back to school at the moment. Not like the Autolite system of numbering is hard to read.

                                14.60 @ 96.33 for now...

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