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  • What can i do with a 3100?

    I just bought a 96 beretta with a 3100. What are some good upgrades? I already have a short ram intake, 8.8 wires, and summit coils. I havent put my dynomax on yet though. Also does anyone know if it is better to eliminate the maf sensor, (not ait sensor) mine has both, or buy a jet maf sensor?

    1996 Beretta
    3100 SFI TURBO
    T28 60 Trim Turbo at 9psi, Stage 1 turbo cam mms, lifter upgrade springs mms, P&P heads, ls6 Valve Springs, Ported exhaust manifolds, Hyperuetectic pistons SP, 3.29 trani, MSD 8.5 wires, open exhaust, Pulstar plugs, 3400 intake manifolds, ported TB, 36 lb/hr injectors, RCI Fuel cell, Walbro 255 pump, A/C Bypass, and much more.
    13.1 @ 103 mph best in the 1/4 mile

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    With 185k on the clock either rebuild or buy a shortblock 1st. No need in buying thousands in parts and then boom it blows. But if you want to mod it 1st then do the easy stuff like porting the intake, bigger TB or make it faster by making it lighter. None of these will give you 50hp or even 25, but it will make it quicker and be easy on he motor compared to other mods. What are your mechanical skills? I would do a dual TB intake or a performance cam, but I am not sure if that is over your head

    www.citymotorsupply.com they are the cheapest for a shortblock.
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    • #3
      First order of business is to get a programmer for it so you can tune it for stock, your basic mods, and anything down the road.
      Ben
      60DegreeV6.com
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      • #4
        jet is junk, you dont need a larger MAF sensor than you have stock... theres no reason to delete it either, your car will run a lot better if you keep it

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        • #5
          Yeah leave the MAF and sensors alone. Until you learn more (search!) you can do a full exhaust. 2.25" or 2.5" all the way back mandrel bent with a high flow cat and dynomax sounds good.

          Since yours is a 96, you have ODBII, so you can get a DHP or powertunr and tweak the computer for your modifications to your hearts content.

          Guys with the 94-95 3100's can't edit their computer at all, so consider yourself lucky in that regard!! A car with mods and a computer adjusted to work with them will be faster than a car with the same mods and no computer adjustments. The computer can only adjust so much, so a lot of changes and you don't get the optimal tune unless you can tweak it yourself.
          sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
          1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
          16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
          Original L82 Longblock
          with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
          Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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          • #6
            the beretta in my picture is my old one my new one has 56000 miles. also last night i went to the movies and it was fine, when i started it to leave it was ticking. it sounds like lifters. it runs like shit but if i rev it up the ticking stops and it runs great. then if it idles for a while it will start again. any suggestions?

            1996 Beretta
            3100 SFI TURBO
            T28 60 Trim Turbo at 9psi, Stage 1 turbo cam mms, lifter upgrade springs mms, P&P heads, ls6 Valve Springs, Ported exhaust manifolds, Hyperuetectic pistons SP, 3.29 trani, MSD 8.5 wires, open exhaust, Pulstar plugs, 3400 intake manifolds, ported TB, 36 lb/hr injectors, RCI Fuel cell, Walbro 255 pump, A/C Bypass, and much more.
            13.1 @ 103 mph best in the 1/4 mile

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            • #7
              oil pump slowly dying... But probably lifters or something valvetrain related.

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              • #8
                Could be the piston slap some people have. It will sound like lifters. Also the injectors can make noise too. If the computer is retarding the timing from it though, you will lose performance. You could try to run a little trans fluid in the oil and see if that helps anything. 56k miles on a 96 isn't very many so it may need to loosen up a bit.
                Ben
                60DegreeV6.com
                WOT-Tech.com

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                • #9
                  Hey slappy , you mention a programmer is their one / where do I get one for a 3.1 FI it's a 1991 sunbird / cavalier I have both and am just starting my “relationship” with the 60% V6 (all hearts and flowers so far ) !

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                  • #10
                    91 is a breeze. I tune those or if you want to tune it yourself, get a laptop, google "freescan" (should be andywhittaker.com) and get that, go to moates.net and get the burn1 and aldl cable for OBD1. Download tunerpro from moates.net and then get the A1.ecu file from our downloads > tuning files section. Search the forums for computer tuning questions or go to thirdgen.org and check their tech section for the ECM tuning write up. It relates but isn't exactly like our setup.

                    btw, name is sappy and these are 100% engines in 60*V6 form
                    Ben
                    60DegreeV6.com
                    WOT-Tech.com

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                    • #11
                      sorry about the “L” should ware my glasses ! Thanks for the info. It will be a big help as I go farther with my new toys, so far I have only opened up the exoust and added a cheap short ram air cleaner,and I already like the look on the face of the first Acura that tried to pass me!

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