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[Tdunk]

well then i need to go back to the subject should i just forget about the rims and tires? If my steelies will do fine then i guess i can keep them. Hey ben i'll talk to you about what i want to do next later tonight on UM's chat. There's a few things i have to check out for my car. I got some bad reports on milzy so i need to talk to you about that.

[fivepointhustla]

Like mentioned above ALOT of BULLSHIT is spread around tracks from "old" guys doing things the "old ways" that people thought were true and have been proved wrong by various magazines and engine builders. Most prostreet/prostock guys don't mod V6s so we will be the best source of info for your 60V6.

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What do you mean you had your PCM tuned...for what you don't have any mods done. Is this a manual or auto...if auto give up. The gearing will kill all performance hopes. Just because it says you have 175 that is at the crank or flywheel. What you really have depends on gearing and the drivetrain loss. Most say take 15% off for drivetrain loss.

What do you mean the rims you want should be lighter? Don't guess do the math. Look up the rims and tires you want add 1 of each together and then weigh one of your steelies and see the weigh difference. If you buy rims that are bigger and heavier you are taking 2 steps backwards. Yeah bigger rims look cool but they will still slow you down if they are lighter than stock. ROTATIONAL MASS. I think the general idea is 1lb. still really is 6lbs. moving. So if the stocks are 3lbs. lighter you really save 18lbs. when they are spinning. It is also alot easier to spin an object that is closer to you so that is the difference between 17s and 13s. On the other hand steelies suck because they are so narrow. You NEED a wider contact patch. I would try to get some rims off another GM vehicle like some 15s off a fiero because my stock wheels only weigh 18lbs. w/o tires, but make sure the rims are at least 7 inches wide. Check out DISCOUNT TIRE DIRECT for tires at a cheap price and an unheard of warranty.

As far as cams go you should find a cam that is going to suit your needs no matter what motor it is for and have it custom ground by DELTA CAMS. They will do it for $135 IF you don't send a core if you send them a stock cam for your motor it will be like $75. If you need help with cams we are here.

The intake manifold is up to you...We got ideas if you got patience.

Nitrous is going to be the ONLY way you break 15s if you don't run boost. If you are going to run a power adder than you want to decide that before you have cam ground so your can can take advantage of the extra air.

[bszopi]

A stock Malibu should run 16s easily stock, even with the auto. Oh, and all production 3x00s have an auto. GM never mated a 5-spd to a 3x00 until the G6 came out. But anyway, GAGTs usually run 15.8s stock, with some even running 15.5s. I have an untuned stock 3400 in a Beretta with a 4T60E and I run 15.9. So I'm not sure where you are getting off thinking that a Malibu won't run 16s.

[El_Diablo]

dunk, your maybe making 150 at the wheels... thats a mid 16 and you should also figure that if you have any audio equipment, a full tank of gas... a sunroof, any accessories like power anything... your prolly at more like 3300lbs


Ben, we have a 3.09 FDR, most guys run a low 17 to mid-low 16 in a good run

15's can be done N/A, we have a guy with only a 55 shot and hes doing a low 13 with altitude correct (high-mid 13 before i believe), blackjack knows him though so im sure he'll correct me if im wrong...

another thing, an auto was the only thing offered in our cars, whats wrong with that? lots of drag racers use them... gearing isnt the best but it'll work... trust me, could always go to a higher FDR too...

dunk, if you really wanna drag then look at weld racings offerings, they have some lightweight FWD drag rims you might be interested in....



again, dunk, what calculator are you using? does it take into account that your FWD?

[SappySE107]

I didn't think they only ran 17s. Thats 3.1 grand prix territory (140 hp gen 2).

I was looking at centerline rims 3+ years ago. Can't afford that kind of stuff so I haven't looked in a while.

[El_Diablo]

thats usually at higher altitudes though... or with a poor performing car

like i said, most are in the 16's... in one of his threads though he talked about only 30% out of the hole so he didn't spin

[RedBird]

you guys are telling him to get a cam? when midnightrider(paul) is making 350+ WHP with only 10(or was it 12) psi. on a 3400 that still has the "soccer mom" cam . if it were me, modding a 3100, I'd go out and find a 3400 for cheap, tear it down, order a regrind cam(if you want) but DEIFNATELY find someone who knows what they are doing, and have the heads and intakes ported. you can buy ported heads from the 60*V6 store even, IIRC. then you could build up that motor while you're still driving the Bu, and swap it in over the course of a few days with the help of a couple buddies who have a little more experience.....

[Tdunk]

No i'm sticking with the 3100. There's nothing wrong with that engine. El Diablo i dont have power anything except like locks and windows and i took the big ass stock radio out and have no huge audio system just an aftermarket radio. By tuned pcm ive had someone remove my limiter and increase line pressure to the trans to increase acceleration. a couple of other things but id have to ask him. El Diablo would probably know. I just like my car and would like to take it to the next level. Otherwise i would just buy a car but i'm used to this one and so far its been the best ride ive driven.

[El_Diablo]

then buy another car because while your block is at the machine shop you wont have a car for about a month


his PCM is one from MP Racing... i believe Mark used HP Tuners software on his car but im not sure, if not is a DHP PT'ed car... just a good genaric tune thats more aggresive than stock

ive told you before dunk, you'll make more power with the same mods on a 3400 and your already going to be changing over to a built 4t45e so why not just swap over to the 3400 at the same time? engines gonna be out anyways... either way though your gonna have to pull it and swap in some lower compression pistons sooner or later if you really wanna make your car that 540hp viper killer as you stated before

[fivepointhustla]

Fwd sucks. Unless the engine is the back.

[Tdunk]

i dont know i'm replacing so much stuff on the current 3100 if i switch to a 3400 i'm gonna be pissed i put money into the first one. lol i still don't know what my next mod will be.

[El_Diablo]

what are you putting into the 3100? so far you have a pcm and CAI, the pcm will have to be changed for best gains anyways and the CAI will bolt right back up...

only real difference is the bore...

[sil]

what all did you put into the 3100
cuase chances are anything you put into the 3100 will swap directly over to the 3400... i say "chances are" because i dont know what you have done to it
but they are pretty much the same motor :P

[Tdunk]

i spent 500 on electrical and sensors. I don't know i'll have to think about it and the only 3400 engines i can find are like 900 plus 230 for shipping.

[El_Diablo]

dude, you got spark plugs, wires and a battery.... it'll all swap right over

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