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  • supercharger adaption to 3100 with 3400 heads?

    Is it possible to adapt one of the 3800 eaton superchargers to a 3100 engine with 3400 head swap? What would be required? What problems could arise?

    Thanks, another newbie question by.....

    Daniel!

  • #2
    My suggestion would be mount it in the lower part of the engine where the AC comp is located.
    I dont know what this means but "ASS HATS" is funny

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    • #3
      If you mean the SC along with the 3800 intake manifold it bolted to then it won't work. The difference between the chevy 60 degree v6's and the buick 90 degree ones (3300 and 3800's) are just too many.

      If you mean just the blower itself then follow the above post. It's just a matter of fabricating a solid mounting bracket (no small task) and a way to get the air charge up to the throttlebody.
      1995 Grand Am SE

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      • #4
        Would be a 3400 lower intake with either a 3400 or 3500 plenum (still undecided).

        You're saying that all it would take is a custom bracket holding it steady somewhere not in the way, and an fitted line to the intake?

        Is the objective to have as short of a line into the intake as possible? Do bends hurt the airflow?

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        • #5
          the 3800 sc has been bolted onto a 3400 before... his name is gavin he did it to a beretta.. go to bstuff.com and search gavin or 3400 sc... he posted the cad file there with dimensions for the lower intake manifold..
          1996 beretta w/a 04' 3400 3.5 top end, 42.5lb hr, 180*thermo, t3t4 .63ar 60 trim, LC1 WB, FMIC, greddy rs BOV,TIAL 38mm wastegate,791xv,fidanza,stage III clutch,TG LSD,ffp udp,walbro 255 lph,strut tower brace,22 rear sway,30 front sway,92 5sp tranny,92 subframes,all solid mounts,kyb shocks and struts,eibachs,battery in trunk,tgp map sensor,DHP Powrtuner,euro front and rear and more to come soon...mods sitting in boxes waiting install....zo4 kit,GTU wing,and more..

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          • #6
            Yes, you can bolt an M90 to a 3400, if you like to have said M90 sitting above the hood. Its not very practical IMO, but to each his own...
            -Brad-
            89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power
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            • #7
              Any way for it to live peacefully under the hood? I'm not looking to do anything outlandish, this is just a family car.

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              • #8
                movr the alt to where the ac is and put the sc up top in back. custom UIM and you are in business.

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                • #9
                  what about the AC compressor Farmerz24?

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                  • #10
                    It goes away... You can't have everything and keep it under the hood without spending significant $$.
                    -Brad-
                    89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power
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                    • #11
                      oh well, that's the end of that then. Colorado is a desert state (up to 105 in the summer), and this is a family car with a wife and infant. So long supercharger dreams....

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                      • #12
                        There's also the option of a centrifugal blower. RSM makes a kit for the 3x00's but the quality is sketchy at best. There was talk here about mounting one in place of the coolant overflow tank (that'll have to be moved or something smaller custom built). The problem there is you need to get a reverse-geared CSC which for whatever reason is more expensive. Plus you'll still need to find a way to mount it securely to the engine.

                        The last option I can think of is to hunt down one of the Eaton kits that were made for the 99-05 grand ams. The hard part there is finding one since only 14 kits were made.
                        1995 Grand Am SE

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