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  • The 3.1 Rebuild has started... Questions! (pics 56k beware)

    Well since the 3.1 in my lumina decided to have a rod knock i am now going to just replace the entire thing, i dont know how bad my engine is on the inside... but i am just going ot use this *crate* engine that i am getting from the local community college. The engine has been sitting in a crate without a topend, had a intake manifold gasket on it.. but was black plastic and old... this engine has a little rust on the block, but the cylinder walls are perfect, the pistons are the same also. i have gotten everything off the engine so far except the crankshaft and rods+pistons. I just had taken off the main bearings when the teacher of the class said i had to go because class was over. I am not a student in the class.. but a friend is.

    We put the heads, valves oil pan, all the heads internals into the parts washer... Minus the valve keys.

    one of the heads was perfect, the other one had a valve that he couldnt get out, so i used a hammer to pound it out to find that it had rust on it. so a few valves need to be replaced. all the pushrods were rusted and i would rather have new ones.

    I have a few questions for you Gurus!

    my car is a 1991 lumina Euro. It had the 3.1 is there a difference between my car... and this block, the casting number is 10110519

    and i also saw somewhere on the engine it had a stamp that said 0793 does that mean it is a 93 block? Will anything be diffrent?? pretty much all i am using is the long block from this car and swapping my top end and all accesories on to it... i need to know if my wiring harness is right for it... im going to attach all the images i took into this.



    Also when we pulled the oil pan the engine had all this gunk and stuff on it.. i dont know what it is does anyone know?

    considering this engine has never seen oil... but it felt like some kind of lubricant, i am thinking either algie from the water, or maybe some kind of silicone protectant for the engine?











    Oh and for you 3.4 DOHC guys... what do you think is under this? It was perfectly sealed all up, i took apart the crate and wrapping on it to find out what was in there

    i sealed it back up, i really would love to have that in my car... but i have a 3 speed crappy trans, and dont wanna get a new tranny, and computer, and harness.

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    that motor doesn't look too good and the crap on the oil pickup hmmm

    but as for the block being able to work it will, i'm using a 89(turbogradprix) block in my 93 z
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    1993 Cavalier Z24, 3.1/3400 hybrid, crane 272 cam, LS6 springs,port and polish,2.5 exhaust to 80 series flowmaster,solid mounts

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    • #3
      actually the instructor cleaned up the block, most of the stuff that looks like rust on the crankshaft and whatnot is all gunk... you can wipe it off with a towel. after he cleaned it all up he said he noticed that the cylinders are fine, but the pistons and rods it came with are the crappy kind.

      the instructor is also a machinist, he owns his own shop. soon we are taking it down there to get it finished up, by tomorrow it should be done... or so i hope.

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      • #4
        That white sludge is from water in the oil.

        There are no such thing as a "crappy kind" of rod and piston combo. Every 660 rod is the same and all the pistons are built in the same manner. So they are the good/only kind
        1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
        1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
        Because... I am, CANADIAN

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        • #5
          thats why i make sure to post. sometimes it's hard not getting your facts straight when your not 100% sure whats going on, and what your dealing with thanks for letting me know though.

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