Hahaha. . you guys see this yet??

[JohnyG]

http://www.gm-v6lemons.com

some people I tell ya. .

-John

[Anonymous]

Well, I'd be pissed if my intake gasket popped on a low mileage late model vehicle...

[geoffinbc]

It was a problem when they were built. The silicone used to seal the ends of the intake was put onto a block that had not been cleaned with a non petrolium based cleaner like brake cleaner or acetone.

So the silicone didn't bite into the metal and seal right.

Dexcool is not GM's problems. It is the owner not getting their collant pH tested or keeping the level topped up.

It is like the firestone tire fiasco.. If people kept their tires inflated there would be no problems.

Oh and gm is fixing ALL faulty 3100 and 3400 engine under good will even after all warrenty has expired. So they need to stop bitching now.

[v6h.o.]

gravy intake gaskets.

intake gaskets pay my bills eh! hahaha funny shit is that today im doing another intake gasket on a 2000 3100 malibu. has 175000Kms.... gravy retail! pays 6.2 hours, takes me 3.5 at worst.

if gm made things the proper way.. i wouldnt be buisy now would i?

[jweir22]

Is it true that that head gasket blocked 75% of the coolant thru i don't have a head gasket to check.Why whould they do that?

[ikessky]

Yeah, the 3x00's are really just a terrible engine. I mean, I'm only on 150,000 miles and I've never had to open up the engine. Truth be told, I've seen just as many problems with Fords and Chryslers as I have with GM. Took threats from a lawyer to get Ford to fix a cracked head after not very many miles on a Windstar........ The thing was definitely under warranty.

[Homer]

Every car manufacturer has problems, its just not GM. If a person uncovered and posted on a website every stupid thing a car company has done it would be stupid. What exactly does making a website like that prove? Maybe that you have to much time on your hands...

[Anonymous]

The one complaint was on the 3800 engine :P

Dexcool is stupid. Maybe its better or whatever but I'll stick to the good old green shit.

[GPXSS]

Ive spoken to the owner of that site, his cam in is 3400 snapped in 2. Most people that have this happen are in a war with GM because they are not reimbursing them for the work done. I did show him that the engine itself is not to blame, but GM using poor quality or poorly designed gaskets, so the site is not a bash against the 60V6, just GM's unwillingness to fix the problem.

[geoffinbc]

Well I know for a fact that GM is now fixing the all under good will.

[Anonymous]

I want the hit back that I gave him.

[Rhedalert]

Well I know for a fact that GM is now fixing the all under good will.

I thought that was just the 3800 that got that deal from GM.

After reading all that, I'll be installing the 2003 redesigned gaskets I was saving for my gen 3 top end onto my dad's 2002 GP SE. I'm sure as hell not going to let a failing gasket ruin a good car. Ironically, my mom's '95 Cutlass Supreme (green coolant) has the original gaskets with no problem.

[illig]

It was a problem when they were built. The silicone used to seal the ends of the intake was put onto a block that had not been cleaned with a non petrolium based cleaner like brake cleaner or acetone.

So the silicone didn't bite into the metal and seal right.

Dexcool is not GM's problems. It is the owner not getting their collant pH tested or keeping the level topped up.

It is like the firestone tire fiasco.. If people kept their tires inflated there would be no problems.

Oh and gm is fixing ALL faulty 3100 and 3400 engine under good will even after all warrenty has expired. So they need to stop bitching now.

That's BS. the gasket itself fails, not the silicone bead at the block/intake mating surface. I know b/c I personally took apart my 3100 in my Beretta and the gasket was toast. All the required maintenance was performed on the car, yet at 88K miles the oil turned to milkshake. GM effed up and your arrogant ass is blaming owners?

And most people (at least the ones I know, my family included) aren't having luck getting the damage repaired w/out warranty.

I mean, what kind of a stupid design flaw is it when your coolant outlasts your intake manifold gasket? Remember, Dexcool isn't supposed to be changed for 100K miles... and most gaskets go at 70-90K

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[Rhedalert]

glad you dug it up, I skipped over that part of this thread

[gpse3400]

The 3800's Intake manifold melts, I don't know if theres a recall but now though DORMAN you can go to the Pepzone and buy an upper and lower intake manifold.. better yet you can even buy thre crappy Torsion damper that the 3800 uses because thats a pos also. I mean not for nothing, I'm not too keen on these intake gaskets all the same I bought the new design and I still RTVed it all. Also I think the 3800 has these gaskets too and they were plagued with the same problems on top of the the upper intake melting. I mean come on these problems are happening at 60,000 mean.

More often than not established people over 25-30 don't buy American..not so much because of problems with the design or the car(s), its because of the horrible dealer service. Noone has time for that garbage. I bet if service attitudes, policies, and the amount of REQUIRED dedication were changed, then I'm sure we'd get back about a good amount of customers. Way too corporate friendly, not customer friendly....Treat them nice and more often then not, you'll sell another car. Taking a $600 loss is nothing to a the sale of a 25,000 car. Moreover the price of enabling a recall sooner is better than not doing or waiting too long. If theres a problem the company is going to lose in legal fees more than it would be to fix the friggen car!........God I'd love to run GM and set an example....GMAC should not be the GM's Bread and Butter, it should be the cars!