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    I was just working on my fenderwell intake when I noticed that my air filter was wet how bad is this? and does the size of the filter make a difference or can I go smaller? (currently have an 11" K&N) will I notice a difference?
    I wish 10% of the people on the road knew how to drive

  • #2
    filter size dosent make a diff in how much air an intake can pull how wet was it? can you pull your tubing off yout TB and see if that is wet in there? if so then you have a problem
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    • #3
      no just wet inside the filter, I really don't have the money to blow on another filter do you think I'll be safe with this one or should I go smaller?
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      • #4
        Go smaller? Why would that make a difference? One of the bad things about a "fenderwell intake" is that you have a tendancy to get water on your air filter from anything puddle size or bigger. That can also cause the car to sputter from time to time, but in itself shouldn't be too dangerous. Where I live it rains far too often for me to do something like that. I like my car to be able to make it thru mild floods if needed, let alone puddles.
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        • #5
          A little water is fine and it will actually cool the intake charge and lower combustion temps.

          Remember that they actually sell water injection systems to help with high boost cars.

          As long as there is not too much water where it actually prevents combustion or wets the sparkplugs you good to go
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          • #6
            At the 60* meet this summer in St. Thomas the one guy with that weird white car has a turbocharged 4cyl engine and the filter sticks OUTSIDE the fender! (if you want to see it go to http://FDPperformance.com. I remember him saying something about how it was wet the turbo worked better.

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            • #7
              If you have a K&N filter, don't worry about it too much. They're designed to keep water from going through them. If you had a regular paper filter then I'd be worried about sucking water into the engine, causing it to waterlock, which is a very bad thing.

              If your still paranoid about it, just take the K&N out, buy a recharge kit for it, then clean and re-oil it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Canadian Badass v.2.0
                At the 60* meet this summer in St. Thomas the one guy with that weird white car has a turbocharged 4cyl engine and the filter sticks OUTSIDE the fender! (if you want to see it go to http://FDPperformance.com. I remember him saying something about how it was wet the turbo worked better.
                if it was wet the turbo worked better? some people. I'm a turbo buff btw.

                Where in Ontario are you?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by betterthanyou
                  A little water is fine and it will actually cool the intake charge and lower combustion temps.

                  Remember that they actually sell water injection systems to help with high boost cars.

                  As long as there is not too much water where it actually prevents combustion or wets the sparkplugs you good to go
                  but with hight boost cars the intake charge is a lot hotter... when the air is compressed by the blower or turbo then it gets hot simply because it is being compressed so much, the water that is sprayed into the intake is almost instantly vaporized and cools the air, on a N/A motor water injection is not of any use
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by StudlyCamaro
                    Originally posted by betterthanyou
                    A little water is fine and it will actually cool the intake charge and lower combustion temps.

                    Remember that they actually sell water injection systems to help with high boost cars.

                    As long as there is not too much water where it actually prevents combustion or wets the sparkplugs you good to go
                    but with hight boost cars the intake charge is a lot hotter... when the air is compressed by the blower or turbo then it gets hot simply because it is being compressed so much, the water that is sprayed into the intake is almost instantly vaporized and cools the air, on a N/A motor water injection is not of any use
                    exactly, with water injection the water is vaporized instantly when introduced to the intake path (usually just before the Throttle body, water droplets on your turbine are a BAD thing). And it's not usually just water, it's a water/alcohol mixture. allows you to run higher boost more efficiently, and staying with a lower octane gas.

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                    • #11
                      from what ive been reading its mainly people runnin over 20lbs that use alcohol/water or people that have over 10.5:1 compression and want to run 6 or more lbs of boost.


                      but as allways take everything you read on the internet with a grain of salt
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by StudlyCamaro
                        from what ive been reading its mainly people runnin over 20lbs that use alcohol/water or people that have over 10.5:1 compression and want to run 6 or more lbs of boost.


                        but as allways take everything you read on the internet with a grain of salt
                        I'm running 28psi with water/alcohol injection, thats my track program anyways. My street program is 20psi though with alky/water injection.

                        but even running water/alcohol on a car with lower boost isn't a bad idea. Just rig it up so it activates at wide open throttle.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mac
                          Originally posted by Canadian Badass v.2.0
                          At the 60* meet this summer in St. Thomas the one guy with that weird white car has a turbocharged 4cyl engine and the filter sticks OUTSIDE the fender! (if you want to see it go to http://FDPperformance.com. I remember him saying something about how it was wet the turbo worked better.
                          if it was wet the turbo worked better? some people. I'm a turbo buff btw.

                          Where in Ontario are you?
                          I was talking about wet airfilter. I live in St. Thomas.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Canadian Badass v.2.0
                            Originally posted by Mac
                            Originally posted by Canadian Badass v.2.0
                            At the 60* meet this summer in St. Thomas the one guy with that weird white car has a turbocharged 4cyl engine and the filter sticks OUTSIDE the fender! (if you want to see it go to http://FDPperformance.com. I remember him saying something about how it was wet the turbo worked better.
                            if it was wet the turbo worked better? some people. I'm a turbo buff btw.

                            Where in Ontario are you?
                            I was talking about wet airfilter. I live in St. Thomas.
                            I know whats what you were talking about, but I can't see how the air filter being wet would make the turbo work better.


                            cool cool, Ingersoll here.

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                            • #15
                              I don't know.. never had a turbo. I dunno if the guy said wet or humid or whatever..

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