Okay, so this is the story of events that led up to the "Service Engine Soon"
I blew my headgasket. Decided to get new heads.
This is a 2003 Pontiac Grand Am. 3400 SFI.
It got the following parts installed.
Wot-Tech
3400 Cylinder Heads (2003-2005)
Stage 1 Porting
Spring Pockets: Stock
Milling: Yes-Regular
Valve Job: Yes
LS Blue Springs
LS1 Valve Spring Seats .553'' OD Guide
Valve Stem Seals for LS1 Seats .553'' OD Guide
Pace Setter 88-1474 Exhaust
Fel-Pro Fel-Pro ES74017 Head Bolts
FEL-PRO HST9071PT1 Head Gasket Set
ACDelco 213-802 Oxygen Sensor
ACDelco AFS113 Oxygen Sensor
Bosch 09362 Spark Plug Wires
ACDelco 41-101 Iridium Spark Plugs (6)
ACDelco GF578 Fuel Filter
ACDelco CV892C PCV Valve
He had to make me a new Heater Core to (Something-He never told me) hose and told me I need to replace both of them before winter.
They installed all of that, everything was fine until startup. It had a loppy idle, very jumpy. They poked around, found that they had cracked my upper intake manifold. They replaced the gasket with some cheap Carquest brand cloth/paper looking gasket that no where near looked like a quality gasket. I do not think they replaced the throttle body gasket either to be honest....as the one from Fel-Pro is still stuck to my old manifold.
When they put on the stock manifold, the check engine light popped on, but went away after about 30 seconds.
They had it hooked up to a Snap-On scantool---not sure if it can erase codes automatically?
Anyway, no codes up to this point anymore.
I went back home, got my old stock one. They put that on.
I drove it around awhile, put about 100 miles on it, went to SEARS to get an inspection sticker, asked them to top off the coolant as the mechanic told me it may need some and I should check.
We checked it, and it was dirty. Nasty brown, and very gross. I am speculating that they never cleaned out my intake manifolds like they should have. I had them do a coolant exchange where they hook it up to a machine that just pumps water/coolant through the system. They pumped water through the system until it was crystal clear, then replaced with dexcool.
I drove it about 24 miles, no service engine light. I went to a few peoples houses, hung out, left the car idling, not a smidgen above 200 did the temp gauge move.
I get it back home, park it for about 10 minutes. I go out to start the car, because it needs to be washed for a parade I am showing it in. I go down, in reverse, my mere 200 foot drive way, and I stopped to wait for passing cars. Then I saw it, the Service Engine Soon light. Really upset me to no end that I am still having issues.
I do not have a scan tool, and will be unable to get it hooked up to one until tomorrow, but I was wondering if anyone had any idea to what it is, and if I can run it with that light one.
I checked the RPMs, they stay steady at about 650. It does not overheat, as far as I could tell. The coolant is orange as it should be for dexcool. I did notice some waterbeads on top of the coolant cap, but I assume that is condensation from when it had cooled down a little bit?
Is the PCM not used to all the engines new parts or?
I find it odd, as I drove it home after the coolant exchange and it was fine. I cannot remember if it blinked, or if it just showed up solid like it is staying.
Really frustrated, and looking for ideas-almost just about had it with the car.
I blew my headgasket. Decided to get new heads.
This is a 2003 Pontiac Grand Am. 3400 SFI.
It got the following parts installed.
Wot-Tech
3400 Cylinder Heads (2003-2005)
Stage 1 Porting
Spring Pockets: Stock
Milling: Yes-Regular
Valve Job: Yes
LS Blue Springs
LS1 Valve Spring Seats .553'' OD Guide
Valve Stem Seals for LS1 Seats .553'' OD Guide
Pace Setter 88-1474 Exhaust
Fel-Pro Fel-Pro ES74017 Head Bolts
FEL-PRO HST9071PT1 Head Gasket Set
ACDelco 213-802 Oxygen Sensor
ACDelco AFS113 Oxygen Sensor
Bosch 09362 Spark Plug Wires
ACDelco 41-101 Iridium Spark Plugs (6)
ACDelco GF578 Fuel Filter
ACDelco CV892C PCV Valve
He had to make me a new Heater Core to (Something-He never told me) hose and told me I need to replace both of them before winter.
They installed all of that, everything was fine until startup. It had a loppy idle, very jumpy. They poked around, found that they had cracked my upper intake manifold. They replaced the gasket with some cheap Carquest brand cloth/paper looking gasket that no where near looked like a quality gasket. I do not think they replaced the throttle body gasket either to be honest....as the one from Fel-Pro is still stuck to my old manifold.
When they put on the stock manifold, the check engine light popped on, but went away after about 30 seconds.
They had it hooked up to a Snap-On scantool---not sure if it can erase codes automatically?
Anyway, no codes up to this point anymore.
I went back home, got my old stock one. They put that on.
I drove it around awhile, put about 100 miles on it, went to SEARS to get an inspection sticker, asked them to top off the coolant as the mechanic told me it may need some and I should check.
We checked it, and it was dirty. Nasty brown, and very gross. I am speculating that they never cleaned out my intake manifolds like they should have. I had them do a coolant exchange where they hook it up to a machine that just pumps water/coolant through the system. They pumped water through the system until it was crystal clear, then replaced with dexcool.
I drove it about 24 miles, no service engine light. I went to a few peoples houses, hung out, left the car idling, not a smidgen above 200 did the temp gauge move.
I get it back home, park it for about 10 minutes. I go out to start the car, because it needs to be washed for a parade I am showing it in. I go down, in reverse, my mere 200 foot drive way, and I stopped to wait for passing cars. Then I saw it, the Service Engine Soon light. Really upset me to no end that I am still having issues.
I do not have a scan tool, and will be unable to get it hooked up to one until tomorrow, but I was wondering if anyone had any idea to what it is, and if I can run it with that light one.
I checked the RPMs, they stay steady at about 650. It does not overheat, as far as I could tell. The coolant is orange as it should be for dexcool. I did notice some waterbeads on top of the coolant cap, but I assume that is condensation from when it had cooled down a little bit?
Is the PCM not used to all the engines new parts or?
I find it odd, as I drove it home after the coolant exchange and it was fine. I cannot remember if it blinked, or if it just showed up solid like it is staying.
Really frustrated, and looking for ideas-almost just about had it with the car.
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