95 3100 no start after HG and LIM gasket replaceme

[zoideraserb]

I'm baffled, it ran fine except water in the oil, got all the gaskets put in and everything back together on now i have no start. i have checked and rechecked everything even going as far as pulling the LIM back off and checking push rod placement to make sure i didn't mix an intake and an exhaust up. The only thing i can think of is that somehow it has a different firing order then a normal 3100, I also have checked the plug wires many many times to make sure they are right, and looked for connections i missed. It does kinda TRY to start, but just barely back fires through the intake. It definitely has spark, and fuel to the rail but i'm not sure if the injectors are firing seems like they are since it does try to start a little. I'm going to get ether now and see what happens, if it doesn't start on that then looks like i'll be pulling the LIM back off to check again.

[zoideraserb]

No start on ether either, actually backfired enough to blow the Vac hose off the brake booster with the ether.....

[3400-95-Modified]

How do you have the wires installed... They are either installed wrong, or your having a problem where the lifters are so gummed up they will not preload/collapse at all and they are keeping the valves open when its trying to start.

All 60*s have the same firing order... Its an even fire engine, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6... You just need to get the wires on the right coil post.

[bszopi]

Did you follow the number on the LIM for the cylinders? If so, its backwards. The numbers indicate the port numbers, but since the ports cross over the engine, they are misleading.

[zoideraserb]

the valves open and close fine. I reall think that i somehow mixed up a push rod on a side.. its the only thing i can think of. And as for the Wires, across the back of the motor i have 1/3/5 and the front is 2/4/6, on across the coil packs i have it 253641. Also i pulled the front valve cover and rotated the motor to watch the valves open/close, and the 3rd one from the right (cyl 4 exhaust?) Looks like its staying loaded a little.. But when i pulled the pushrod and checked, it does have a longer rod in it and the one directly to the right of it has a intake rod. I went by the post "Pushrod Location" (http://60degreev6.com/forum/content....shrod-Location) as to where the puchrods went.. But it seems like since the heads are the same head, but on the opposite side (i was always told that you can swap sides because they are the same), and since in that same post it has the placement of the pushrods for that side (cyl4) opposite for the RWD version versus the FWD version.

"In a FWD configuration the order for the rear head from left to right is Exhaust, Intake, Exhaust, Intake, Intake, Exhaust. The front head from left to right is Exhaust, Intake, Exhaust, Intake, Intake, Exhaust.
If you are working with a RWD configuration, the left head from front to back is Exhaust, Intake, Exhaust, Intake, Intake, Exhaust. The right head is Exhaust, Intake, Intake, Exhaust, Intake, Exhaust."

SO, which is correct? because if i'm thinking logically, then the "right" head in a rwd configuration would the the Front head in a FWD.. Am i right?

[pocket-rocket]

"In a FWD configuration the order for the rear head from left to right is Exhaust, Intake, Exhaust, Intake, Intake, Exhaust. The front head from left to right is Exhaust, Intake, Exhaust, Intake, Intake, Exhaust.
If you are working with a RWD configuration, the left head from front to back is Exhaust, Intake, Exhaust, Intake, Intake, Exhaust. The right head is Exhaust, Intake, Intake, Exhaust, Intake, Exhaust."

SO, which is correct? because if i'm thinking logically, then the "right" head in a rwd configuration would the the Front head in a FWD.. Am i right?

No. FWD vs RWD, the engine turns 90* counter-clockwise. In FWD, the passenger side is the belt side, which would be the front of a RWD car.

[zoideraserb]

ok so going by what the pushrod guide says... fwd cars have 2 different heads whereas rwd cars have the same heads but one turned around on the other side? because in the guide it says that the rods go in, in the same order for the front and the back heads for a fwd configuration? and the rwd ones go in with the center two opposite from the other side?

[pocket-rocket]

The FWD have the same head for both banks, so standing from the same spot looking at the engine, one set of pushrods will flip flop, just like the RWD.

[stocked]

Try the plugs?