3.4 Frankenbird Won't Start!

[robertisaar]

sounds like your typical untuned, cammed car...

it'll get better.

[SappySE107]

piece of cake, its rich as hell Sent you another .bin.

[tkoforpresident]

piece of cake, its rich as hell Sent you another .bin.

lol

that's some cake.

got the .bin

will log tomorrow evening.

thanks

[ForcedFirebird]

When rich like that )possibly flooded), easiest way to start the car is put the gas to the floor and keep it there until it catches.

[tkoforpresident]

When rich like that )possibly flooded), easiest way to start the car is put the gas to the floor and keep it there until it catches.

So that we can get some more air for all that fuel?

[robertisaar]

assuming the cranking fuel vs TPS table is set up the way it was from the factory, it would go into clear flood mode and bascially inject VERY little fuel when the engine is cycling.

[tkoforpresident]

roger that.

Going over to log tonite, hopefully with the latest .bin changes I won't have to worry about stalling out again..... or at least as much as last time...

I'll probably post the log ~ 6pm or so.


edit: Should i drive for a bit longer this time if the car is running a lot better?

[robertisaar]

if it's running better, why not?

[tkoforpresident]

Definitely a lot better this time. I think the BLM/INT was MUCH improved, at least from what i could see while driving. Still some issues however. The car stalled out the first time i put it in REVERSE. It's done this a couple times now, how do we fix that? Up the rpms while in gear?

It didn't stall out at all while I was at stop signs but it did seem like it was pretty darn close and when i got home and stopped the car fully for a few seconds (in gear) it did stall out.

I'm wondering if we ought to up the rpms a bit more? Or maybe it's something else causing the stall outs?

Here's the chronology so you can relate it to the log.

Started car and let it warm up >Started to datalog>put car in reverse then it stalled out>started car back up and took it around the streets for a while with no major issues>came home and stopped just outside the garage and it stalled out again>stopped logging.

Either way, it was MUCH improved while I was out driving. I hope the log shows that too. Let me know what you think...


max

[tkoforpresident]

here's the log...

btw.. I thought the BLM looked pretty high while idling...

[SappySE107]

I am "starting over" with the base VE table. I only see future headaches if I don't reshape this better. The lack of MAP resolution is going to be so much fun:P Does anyone have a stock iron head dyno sheet? I want to see what the graph looks like vs the stock fueling tables. I will also look at the dynomation graph for your current setup and hopefully get this roughed in.

[tkoforpresident]

I am "starting over" with the base VE table. I only see future headaches if I don't reshape this better. The lack of MAP resolution is going to be so much fun:P Does anyone have a stock iron head dyno sheet? I want to see what the graph looks like vs the stock fueling tables. I will also look at the dynomation graph for your current setup and hopefully get this roughed in.

Errr is this a bad thing?


I'll try to find a dyno sheet for you but i know there aren't too many floating around...

What's dynomation? I'm intrigued...

[tkoforpresident]

here ya go lol...

[SappySE107]

fuel injected and real would be nice. Dynomation is simulation software.

[tkoforpresident]

i know.. I was just jokin.

let me know what my "dynomation #'s" come out to