I have the 60 Degree V6 rebuild book and it is a very well written book but I agree it is for novice people. But in its day it was the most up to date book out there. Keep in mind the age of the book before you bash it.
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I suppose you could spend $50-$200+ on a book, then a gasket set, rings, bearings, machine work and whatnot to rebuild an ancient engine with ancient information from a book published in 1994....
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You could just buy a newer, better performing low mileage engine for $300-$400 and be done with it.
I generally throw away 2.8/3.1 engines. IMHO that is about what they are worth.
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Originally posted by asylummotorsports View PostI generally throw away 2.8/3.1 engines. IMHO that is about what they are worth.
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Originally posted by asylummotorsports View PostI suppose you could spend $50-$200+ on a book, then a gasket set, rings, bearings, machine work and whatnot to rebuild an ancient engine with ancient information from a book published in 1994....
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You could just buy a newer, better performing low mileage engine for $300-$400 and be done with it.
I generally throw away 2.8/3.1 engines. IMHO that is about what they are worth.
Not everyone has the time or resources to drop in a 3500 or make a hybrid. A lot of people just want their car back on the road or to get it back to the condition it was in before a cylinder head cracked, cam went flat or a valve burnt out. So a book like this helps in this case.
Stop bashing something that does a good job at what it was designed to do just because there is no "How to Make 300 Horsepower From a 60 Degree V6" book. That is not what the author was writing about, he did not miss the point he was trying to make.1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
Because... I am, CANADIAN
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I would argue with the utmost respect that if you have the time and resources to pull, rebuild and re-install an engine, you are more than qualified and able to swap a better motor into the car.
Hell even a basic 3100 is a better option and they are cheap as dirt in very usable condition.
But this is getting somewhat off topic.Last edited by asylummotorsports; 10-23-2009, 10:52 AM.
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Originally posted by betterthanyou View PostThe title of the book is "how to rebuild" not "how to hotrod and make your car drop into the 13's"
Not everyone has the time or resources to drop in a 3500 or make a hybrid. A lot of people just want their car back on the road or to get it back to the condition it was in before a cylinder head cracked, cam went flat or a valve burnt out. So a book like this helps in this case.
Stop bashing something that does a good job at what it was designed to do just because there is no "How to Make 300 Horsepower From a 60 Degree V6" book. That is not what the author was writing about, he did not miss the point he was trying to make.
"How to make 300 HP from a 60 degree v6 and still get 30 MPG"
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Originally posted by Superdave View PostMaybe we should write a book on that...
"How to make 300 HP from a 60 degree v6 and still get 30 MPG"
get typin'
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Wouldn't be much of a book...
Step 1: buy 3500
Step 2: Have Ben port the top end
Step 3: install a healthy cam
Step 4: Install headers
Step 5: tune
maybe we could do little flip-books
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Originally posted by asylummotorsports View PostI would argue with the utmost respect that if you have the time and resources to pull, rebuild and re-install an engine, you are more than qualified and able to swap a better motor into the car.
Hell even a basic 3100 is a better option and they are cheap as dirt in very usable condition.
But this is getting somewhat off topic.
My son owns the 94- Camaro RS that is the object of all this mechanical attention (if that RS designation is even correct) and his car is the focus of everything I am working on to make the install and upgrades correct. But I also own a 1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z-28 that is my own daily driver (I know..."Z-28" ....bad word) with the LT-1 Corvette motor and barely 65,000 miles on it. It is a very solid performer in so many pleasant ways. So I'm in no need of bumping any of the cars too substantially higher in the horsepower end of things. Ergo... the 3.4L build plods along and with God's grace...some help here and there from the likes of all of you... I'll cobble my boy's car back together very soon. That's the plan...Last edited by 60dgrzbelow0; 10-23-2009, 08:06 PM.
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Originally posted by 60dgrzbelow0 View PostIt would be interesting to see (pics...anyone?) of some of the 93-95 4th Gen F-Bodys with this engine-swap-upgrade you've described. My situation is a bit different than most people who have cars with the 60* V-6 motors though. I'm retired and live on a fixed income. I have to pace the purchases I make to improve and upgrade this 3.4L engine according to how much I can afford at any given time... so this requires patience and planning.
My son owns the 94- Camaro RS that is the object of all this mechanical attention (if that RS designation is even correct) and his car is the focus of everything I am working on to make the install and upgrades correct. But I also own a 1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z-28 that is my own daily driver (I know..."Z-28" ....bad word) with the LT-1 Corvette motor and barely 65,000 miles on it. It is a very solid performer in so many pleasant ways. So I'm in no need of bumping any of the cars too substantially higher in the horsepower end of things. Ergo... the 3.4L build plods along and with God's grace...some help here and there from the likes of all of you... I'll cobble my boy's car back together very soon. That's the plan...
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As already stated, there really isn't much out there besides this website when it comes to these engines. I bought the book because it is rare, and I wanted to see for myself what was in it. Not to mention I scored it for like $25 on ebay. The chevrolet power book had a section in it with 660 info at one time.. never did get ahold of that one.
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Originally posted by Superdave View PostWith a healthy cam, headers and a 3500 top end your son's car would be just as fast as yours
If you are a father yourself with children approaching driving age...you will think about this problem long and hard the later it gets on a Saturday night...until your kids arrive safe and sound at home. This is the primary reason for my making only a "reasonable" HP boost in his new engine...rather than any other factors you might imagine. I don't want my son to be tempted by so much constant and unbridled power to risk him having to take that "Long Dirt Nap" sooner than he is able to level himself in life. Sometimes "Too Much of Good Thing"... is just not that good when it comes to making more and more Horse Power. I hope this is an adequate explanation.Last edited by 60dgrzbelow0; 10-24-2009, 06:34 PM.
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my oldest is about 5 or 6 years from driving, but i see your point of view.
I also know for a fact that you can go extremely fast with not much power.. As a stupid reckless teen i took my old Z24 up past 120.. it had probably 90 HP @ the wheels with the old 2.8/auto.
I teach my oldest son responsibility, and he knows that if he does something stupid he'll pay for it. lol
but lets get back on subject.. 3400beretta, does it have "Old book smell" ?
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